Link to American Audio forum for those that want to visit there - http://forums.americandj.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/727105965
Let's continue discussions here ...
And to address the concerns already mentioned ....
Daft or not, that is the standard skin design on ALL VirtualDJ products and is what the user's expect to see if they have ever used the trial version or another VirtualDJ product.
Since you have never run a LE version before I can understand your perspective. LE versions are built to exactly interface with the controller it is shipped with. If you want Pro access then the user must upgrade to Pro. As for your Expired Trial - I already explained this - if you are a PRO user it will by default be Expired as you already have the PRO software.
The problem does not exist in the definition or the mapping. Each LED has it's own assigned code and that code is mapped to an action. Testing the unit in analog is not a test of it using MIDI.
Don't know what to tell you there, but I never had a problem selecting the effect I wanted. You could always try a re-map in Pro to something like - param_multiply 20% & effect select +1
Will agree, but you can report them here also as we have worked with American Audio closely on this and have contacts with their production team members.
The intention was never to use the controller without using the built in sound card. This is a personal preference and left to the user with a Pro version to make those adjustments.
I found that sometimes the crossfader once moved would remedy this. It is not mapped to anything audio related in VirtualDJ. It's just something weird with the internals of the unit ... so set everything back to the defaults and try again.
This may explain your other problem above ... but the expected default of the unit is in the 4-out mode NOT 8-out. If you switched it to 8 out that might be why you were having some issues ... but hard to know since I wasn't there :)
That is the way American Audio designed it ... you can't just switch a sound card's functionality on the fly. There are several impacts on switching modes that is why it requires a restart of the unit.
You can not just use anyone's disc and you are already talking to the correct people at AmericanAudio .. you need to get this from them, they are the distributor.
Yes, you could use them as well by connecting their outputs to the VMS4 inputs.
Let's continue discussions here ...
And to address the concerns already mentioned ....
groovindj wrote :
OK I know it's down to the VDJ guys really, not ADJ - but it's still pretty daft to have a button marked config that has NO config options!
Daft or not, that is the standard skin design on ALL VirtualDJ products and is what the user's expect to see if they have ever used the trial version or another VirtualDJ product.
GadgetMan wrote :
However I experienced another issue with LE. When I hit congig, I got the popup for try pro for 20 days. Can't remember what the two options were now but from what I remember it was worded in a way that meant I had to choose Pro - so I did. Hit config again and was told my 20 days had expired! and I could not access the settings at all to see how it was set up.
Since you have never run a LE version before I can understand your perspective. LE versions are built to exactly interface with the controller it is shipped with. If you want Pro access then the user must upgrade to Pro. As for your Expired Trial - I already explained this - if you are a PRO user it will by default be Expired as you already have the PRO software.
GadgetMan wrote :
Cue buttons - I've narrowed the issue down to VDJ. When the unit runs in analoue mode or connected via USB, but without VDJ started, the cue buttons work as expected. However as soon as you start VDJ the buttons start to act strangly. I'll upload a video to explain.
The problem does not exist in the definition or the mapping. Each LED has it's own assigned code and that code is mapped to an action. Testing the unit in analog is not a test of it using MIDI.
GadgetMan wrote :
Effect Knob - This is way to sensative. Turning the knob often bypasses effects or moves on the next without you realising. Is there a way to adjust this via VDJScript?
Don't know what to tell you there, but I never had a problem selecting the effect I wanted. You could always try a re-map in Pro to something like - param_multiply 20% & effect select +1
groovindj wrote :
What I meant was that the VDJ issues are fine here, but any ADJ issues - like hardware and firmware - would be better off on their own forum, as it probably won't get seen here.
Will agree, but you can report them here also as we have worked with American Audio closely on this and have contacts with their production team members.
mp3jrick wrote :
Personally, I find the mixer not mapped if you use a different sound device a bit more of an annoyance and shouldn't be on the user to do.
The intention was never to use the controller without using the built in sound card. This is a personal preference and left to the user with a Pro version to make those adjustments.
GadgetMan wrote :
So expecting things 'just to work' at this point, I plugged in my monitors (to the master out) cued up a couple of tracks and hit play. Nothing!!! I turned the master, gains and faders to the max and got a bt of noise in the VU's. Couldn't even get anything in the headphones.
I found that sometimes the crossfader once moved would remedy this. It is not mapped to anything audio related in VirtualDJ. It's just something weird with the internals of the unit ... so set everything back to the defaults and try again.
GadgetMan wrote :
Now though the decks were asignd to midilogs 1 and 2. I'm sure I read somewere here (chris/rick) that VDJ would be assigned to midilogs 2 and 3 leaving 1 and 4 for other devices. I went back to settings and found the advanced setup under the ASIO and saw that I could assign the sound card channels independently to the midilog channels. So I assigned channels 1&2 to midilog 2 and 3&4 to midilog 3. Then just assigned 5&6 to midilog 1 and 7&8 to midilog 4 just so that everything had its own place. BINGO... Now working as expected.
However I noticed that the 4 out/8 out switch had no effect on the ASIO settings or the device. Do I need to have VDJ setup for timecodes for this to kick in?
However I noticed that the 4 out/8 out switch had no effect on the ASIO settings or the device. Do I need to have VDJ setup for timecodes for this to kick in?
This may explain your other problem above ... but the expected default of the unit is in the 4-out mode NOT 8-out. If you switched it to 8 out that might be why you were having some issues ... but hard to know since I wasn't there :)
groovindj wrote :
The 4 out/8 out switch - I discovered that the change only gets noticed by the software once you power cycle the VMS4.
So if you want to change from one sound card setting to the other, you have to cut the juice.
So if you want to change from one sound card setting to the other, you have to cut the juice.
That is the way American Audio designed it ... you can't just switch a sound card's functionality on the fly. There are several impacts on switching modes that is why it requires a restart of the unit.
paulcin wrote :
Can someone send me this file, I already have serial number so I don't see it as a breach as must still need that to work it.
You can not just use anyone's disc and you are already talking to the correct people at AmericanAudio .. you need to get this from them, they are the distributor.
jaakko wrote :
I have 2 xp-10 controllers too. is it possible to use them connected to other 2 free channels of vms4? That could bring interesting possibilities....
Yes, you could use them as well by connecting their outputs to the VMS4 inputs.
geposted Fri 06 Aug 10 @ 6:59 am
The VMS4 ASIO driver is now available as a separate download from the dedicated VMS4 website!
Click on the downloads link at the top of the page, and ASIO driver v1.07 is below the manual and MIDI config files.
It's a RAR though, not a ZIP.
Let's see if they put up some firmware info, and a download of the update util......
Click on the downloads link at the top of the page, and ASIO driver v1.07 is below the manual and MIDI config files.
It's a RAR though, not a ZIP.
Let's see if they put up some firmware info, and a download of the update util......
geposted Fri 06 Aug 10 @ 7:09 am
I had a short play with my VMS4 last night and experienced the trial/pro version comment as previous.
Exscuse my lack of understanding but from reading through what has been said. Is it just a case of updating the software to the 6.1.1 version and the functionality will be the same as provided by the LE skin/mapping within the pro version ?
Or do you have to re-install the pro version.
Would like to know before I get home as will have a number of other jobs to be done before I can have another play ;-)
Exscuse my lack of understanding but from reading through what has been said. Is it just a case of updating the software to the 6.1.1 version and the functionality will be the same as provided by the LE skin/mapping within the pro version ?
Or do you have to re-install the pro version.
Would like to know before I get home as will have a number of other jobs to be done before I can have another play ;-)
geposted Fri 06 Aug 10 @ 7:20 am
If you have Pro already, and you install LE (necessary to get all the bits and bobs installed) then the install process will also put certain files
into the VDJ 'storage area' (which isn't the install dir) so when you next run Pro, the VMS4 skin will be there and so on.
If you don't have Pro and you upgrade from LE, that'll work too - because LE will have installed the VMS4 specific bits.
into the VDJ 'storage area' (which isn't the install dir) so when you next run Pro, the VMS4 skin will be there and so on.
If you don't have Pro and you upgrade from LE, that'll work too - because LE will have installed the VMS4 specific bits.
geposted Fri 06 Aug 10 @ 7:31 am
Further to my comments in the other thread, there do seem to be some potential quality issues:
1 - Why was there no UK adapter in the box, I thought it was a legal requirement?
2 - Left side jog wheel scrapes when going round
3 - Not all LED's on the buttons are the same brightness
4 - Sound from the headphone socket is poor (compared to Pioneer and A&H mixers) and distorts when turned up a bit. That has been tested with Pioneer Pro and Sennheiser HD-25 headphones.
5 - Bug with the cue buttons (not sure if a VDJ / Midi / Firmware issue as yet)
I suppose giving it a spin at the club tomorrow night is the best way to find out what the output sound is like. I think I may just take my HC-4500 in the car just in case ........
Overall for the price I suppose it's OK, and like anything else there will be problems to iron out.
1 - Why was there no UK adapter in the box, I thought it was a legal requirement?
2 - Left side jog wheel scrapes when going round
3 - Not all LED's on the buttons are the same brightness
4 - Sound from the headphone socket is poor (compared to Pioneer and A&H mixers) and distorts when turned up a bit. That has been tested with Pioneer Pro and Sennheiser HD-25 headphones.
5 - Bug with the cue buttons (not sure if a VDJ / Midi / Firmware issue as yet)
I suppose giving it a spin at the club tomorrow night is the best way to find out what the output sound is like. I think I may just take my HC-4500 in the car just in case ........
Overall for the price I suppose it's OK, and like anything else there will be problems to iron out.
geposted Fri 06 Aug 10 @ 7:31 am
I thought the headphone output sounded OK...
I was using HD25 too, and am used to hearing the A&H Xone:92 output.
My left jog also has a very slight rub. It can't be felt, only heard - as if something is brushing against it inside, once per rotation.
I was using HD25 too, and am used to hearing the A&H Xone:92 output.
My left jog also has a very slight rub. It can't be felt, only heard - as if something is brushing against it inside, once per rotation.
geposted Fri 06 Aug 10 @ 7:36 am
groovindj wrote :
If you have Pro already, and you install LE (necessary to get all the bits and bobs installed) then the install process will also put certain files
into the VDJ 'storage area' (which isn't the install dir) so when you next run Pro, the VMS4 skin will be there and so on.
If you don't have Pro and you upgrade from LE, that'll work too - because LE will have installed the VMS4 specific bits.
into the VDJ 'storage area' (which isn't the install dir) so when you next run Pro, the VMS4 skin will be there and so on.
If you don't have Pro and you upgrade from LE, that'll work too - because LE will have installed the VMS4 specific bits.
Thanks, nice and easy then I hope.
geposted Fri 06 Aug 10 @ 7:45 am
This only happens when VDJ is up and running.
Cheers,
Roy
geposted Fri 06 Aug 10 @ 8:28 am