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DJJAMM wrote :
I I have to agree that the sound is an issue, Ive heard the argument, and i have played with other djs using Traktor.

I also have to agree about the Denon 3900's , from what I read and who knows if its even true , but If it is true the Denon 3900s are actually the real deal, a possible TECH 1200 killer, but -- now here is the but, If vdj can get it working flawless with low latency... The platter is what I am referring to.(no im not talking about hybrid midi) I would love to see vdj get this correct.. so If anyone has any info On the 3900s please let us know, i hate coming in last and as far as the 3900 goes VDJ is dead Last

DJ JAMM


thank you.
I own the sc3900 and its not working brother
If I did no have the dnx1600 mixer vdj sound would be crap.
If you listen to engine and compare to vdj you see the difference straight away, traktor same, without mixer or with mixer, the difference is massive.

Same about scratch sound with hybrid or without hybrid mode, difference is massive.

It's time to step up the game.

I will upgrade vdj every year and pay 79 $ same as i do with traktor, if it worth it.

As far as i know if Traktor Decided to introduce video djíng in the software, virtual Dj will die.

trust me on that
 
I addressed the point about the video engine in your original post, that was all - that effects are being added or updated regularly. Does it really matter who they are made by? I started out as a community member who then decided to contribute plugins.

Personally I've tested Traktor and VDJ through my DN-X1600 and I couldn't hear this huge difference you guys are talking about. There was a huge thread on this a few years back, a user went away with some RTA software and come back with the conclusion that the output from VDJ and Traktor was actually quite similar when the same track was played through the same soundcard.

Your statement makes little sense. In one line you said that without your DN-X1600 the sound would be crap, then in the next line you say it makes no difference. How does the DN-X1600 make the sound from VDJ not-crap, versus someone using another professional sound card?

I also disagree that Traktor introducing video would kill VDJ.
 
Well many people will agree on that. look where other people agreed you disagree, so this is showing what kind of person u are.

I'm trying to have a discussion that will built something here, seriously VDJ team until you step up the game, you will be behind, and it's true/

look at the wave form like a joke, does not even look right , come on until we say things nothing is going to change man
unless you are not honest you can say here that vdj is evenclose to traktor or vdj, we all know the gap is there and there is possibility o do better.

so why not say it
 
You are aware that VDJ8 is a complete code re-write?

Why not wait until VDJ8 is tested then released before comparing the current version 7 which is being replaced?

We do not know the features and improvements VDJ8 will finally have, however looking at the videos from the Musicmeisse show it will be a major step forward.

Keith
 
You obviously seem to have a problem with my addressing your points. I'm not disagreeing for arguments sake - I'm stating my real world experience.

Of course there are places VDJ can improve, I can't deny that. However I don't think the gap between Traktor and VDJ is as you think it is. Traktor doesn't have half the functionality I use on a regular basis - and that is excluding video support! So to me that gap is *huge* and is in the opposite direction to your gap.

You want a discussion so have it instead of flinging half truths, hearsay and insults around. Have an actual informative discussion where you provide criticism of something (actual criticism, not that it's bad or a joke) and how you would like to see it improved.

I mean look at this statement:

Quote :
look at the wave form like a joke, does not even look right


How is that informative or even factual to anyone?

If you are just going to be argumentative and insulting, rather than having a proper discussion then I'm just going to step back and leave you to it.
 
traktor is pretty cheap bro... why not use that instead?

vdj is in a league of it's own in terms of it's adaptability to any system, and the sheer amount of ways you can modify the software to do almost anything you can think of. Personally I think traktor has no where to go but down since they have started locking software features to hardware, and the company doesn't appear to listen to users requests, instead they follow their own agenda, which has been successful in the past although Im not sure why the S4 got the notariety it did because the controller is only one step up from a mixtrack in terms of build quality, there are so many controllers that are better than it but guess what NI does... they don't allow better controllers to function optimally to force encourage you to buy their hardware...
 
What a crap thread this turned out to be, what the hell is all this Traktor talk! boring
 
can't wait.... seriously
 
I just dont get how people don't associate all the controllerism mappings with vdj, you can do not only everything that can be done in traktor, you can do far more because of the simplicity of the mapping in vdj and the complexity of what it can do... and now that I am trying skinning once you learn the basics it's really pretty easy to map everything, in fact I have probably spent more time choosing colors tonight than mapping everything to make it work..

also if you every head over to the djtechtools forum "vdj" is no longer a dirty word, it's not praised yet but influential peoples eyes are opening to the possibilities vdj already has on offer nevermind about VDJ8.
 
At the end of the day it's down to personal preference.

I have two completely different cars and enjoy both.

I have three mobile phones with three different operating systems and they're all great in their own way.

I have a Mac and a PC and both are good for specific things.

However with DJ software only VDJ gives me what I want. I've lost count of the amount of times I've had demos of Traktor and it's just not for me. VDJ is not perfect, however it offers me personally far more than Traktor or Serato ever could.

As Synthet1c says, the mapping is superb and once you get the hang of it you realise the true power. Aside from that, if you also work with video and karaoke then Traktor or Serato are out of it.

Traktor sells cheap then hits you with constant charges for updates. Serato is only sold with expensive hardware you are tied to. Video Serato ($149) or ME ($199) is another charge on top again. VDJ is a one off purchase with updates for the life of the product and if you get the LE with a controller it's discounted. Hmmmmm

Keith
 
Well! For the one that asked to use traktor dont worry . I'm using traktor at this stage anyway because VDJ is the latest software that does not have mapping for the sc3900.

Lol


I'm not hating VDJ in fact I want VDJ to smash all the rest.

But for me The ambition here are too low and this number 8 version I hope they will kick ass.
Thats all

Now i shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhushhhhhhhh.
 
You tend to find controllers that are bundled with LE supported on release. The sc3900 comes with it's own engine software and not Virtual DJ.

It's not to say that controller won't be supported natively in VDJ however I don't think this has been confirmed by Atomix as yet?

Keith
 
kradcliffe wrote :
You tend to find controllers that are bundled with LE supported on release. The sc3900 comes with it's own engine software and not Virtual DJ.

It's not to say that controller won't be supported natively in VDJ however I don't think this has been confirmed by Atomix as yet?

Keith



Brother this is what im talking about.

Sc3900 came out with engine right?
Not traktor!
Not serato!

But they already been mapped to it by traktor and serato.

Why not vdj?
Now 3 months almost they out yo.

And please this time hybrid should be able to work like midi.
I mean being able to use 4 decks if i want.

Like traktor .... Lol
 
kpone9 wrote :
But they already been mapped to it by traktor and serato.

Yeah, and they were both posted by Denon in April. One on the 2nd, one on the 24th.

It's now May (just).

So the Serato mapping has been around for a month, and the Traktor one for just over a week.

Oh yeah, Atomix is way behind, huh?

And the thing is, if you're really such a big fan of VDJ and keen to use your SC3900s with it - you could map stuff yourself.
 
"groovindj" wrote :
And the thing is, if you're really such a big fan of VDJ and keen to use your SC3900s with it - you could map stuff yourself.




you can't get it all work perfect so i wait .

look i got the right to say what i think man.

And I will say it.

if you are upset just don't read what i write that's all
 
And we've got the right to reply...

Seriously, what did you expect when you post on the VDJ forum mentioning Traktor all the time?



I don't get why someone would spend money on hardware standalone players, then want to use them as controllers anyway.

Surely the whole idea of decks like the SC3900, Pioneer's CDJ-2000 etc is that they work without a computer.
 
groovindj wrote :
And we've got the right to reply...

Seriously, what did you expect when you post on the VDJ forum mentioning Traktor all the time?



I don't get why someone would spend money on hardware standalone players, then want to use them as controllers anyway.

Surely the whole idea of decks like the SC3900, Pioneer's CDJ-2000 etc is that they work without a computer.



the purpose of sc3900 is to able to midi map and use it as a standalone.

I play my mp3 and i also video dj.

and to video dj i use virtual Dj mista...

lol

traktor traktor traktor traktor...lol
 
 
 
i hope they can upgrade or enhance the BPM engine below 70. because the reading is wrong when the BPM is low
 
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