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Topic: Denon DJ MCX8000 and Virtual dj
I'm looking at purchasing this controller as I can see it now works with virtual dj on terms of screens etc, but wondered whether you are able to browse your library from virtual dj on the screens in the same way as the numark screens do or can you only do this if you use Denon engine?
Thanks!

Posted Fri 29 Sep 17 @ 9:46 pm
djdadPRO InfinityDevelopment ManagerMember since 2005

Posted Fri 29 Sep 17 @ 10:46 pm
I have been using the MCX8000 with VDJ for about 4 months now and it is 100% perfect. Best software & controller combo ever!

Same cannot be said for Engine 1.5 and standalone mode though. Denon have stated they are committed to the controller and it has not been forgotten. New firmware and support in Engine prime will happen sometime.

Posted Sat 30 Sep 17 @ 10:20 am
kradcliffe wrote :
Best software & controller combo ever!

1+

kradcliffe wrote :

Same cannot be said for Engine 1.5 and standalone mode though.

1++
Engine is a piece of s##t!.

Posted Sat 30 Sep 17 @ 10:41 am
kradcliffe wrote :
Same cannot be said for Engine 1.5 and standalone mode though.


What is your experience with Engine 1.5? I started playing with it a bit and I can't get it to do anything. Seems like any song gives me the error "File is not audio file." and it won't add them to the database.

I was hoping it might be possible to look at the database format and see if there's any way to convert cue points etc. from VDJ database.

Posted Fri 06 Oct 17 @ 12:24 am
Engine 1.5 is almost unusable.

It crashes constantly and it took me several days to build a working database. Not all my songs are in it because some of them cause it to crash during scanning. could be artwork, could be tag meta data but no-one really knows. You also need to make sure there are no 48k audio files as those won't be recognised.

Denon are *supposed* to be supporting the MCX8000 in a future version of Engine Prime but the statement was in January, so draw your own conclusions.

Great hardware but shockingly bad software support.

Usual corportate "we're committed" crap but nothing physical to back it up.



Posted Fri 06 Oct 17 @ 8:37 am
kradcliffe wrote :
some of them cause it to crash during scanning. could be artwork, could be tag meta data but no-one really knows. You also need to make sure there are no 48k audio files as those won't be recognised.


Sounds very similar to my experience with their previous library software (Denon DJ Music Manager). If it didn't like your file, it just rejected it. Some of my older stuff is in mono - because the original recording is mono - but that's an unknown concept for Denon's software. All tracks have to be stereo.

As you say, cover art could be an issue too. I stripped cover art from countless tracks just so the DB would accept them & my Denon hardware could play them.

Sounds like they haven't learned from past mistakes.

Posted Fri 06 Oct 17 @ 11:25 pm
bagpussPRO InfinityMember since 2003

Has this engine software improved at all for you guys?

I wouldn't be interested in running in standalone, except for backup purposes.

Posted Wed 03 Jan 18 @ 1:17 pm
No. Still no update. That's a year since Paul Dakeyne promised it would be looked at.

Totally unacceptable and will damage Denon as a brand going forward. Lots of unhappy customers.

Posted Wed 03 Jan 18 @ 2:30 pm
bagpussPRO InfinityMember since 2003

I've just been informed that they're streamlining Engine prime across platforms, and a decent update isn't far off, reassuring to know.

Posted Wed 03 Jan 18 @ 3:07 pm
Define far off. In Denon terms it could be years..... When I chatted with Paul around July it was soon. All they ever do is make promises.

No guarantee of MCX8000 support in this update either.

Posted Wed 03 Jan 18 @ 3:12 pm
bagpussPRO InfinityMember since 2003


He said "almost ready to release", so I can't see it being too far off.

Posted Wed 03 Jan 18 @ 4:01 pm
Thanks for the info.

Denon make good hardware but the firmware & software support sucks.

No way they're going to compete with Pioneer in the longer term unless they get this sorted out ASAP.



Posted Wed 03 Jan 18 @ 4:24 pm
bagpuss wrote :


He said "almost ready to release", so I can't see it being too far off.


Still hope for a Prime version with MCX support

Posted Thu 04 Jan 18 @ 11:15 am