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I'm looking at purchasing my 6th mac, and I'm probably gonna' get a mac book pro.

I've read that the video out doesn't work in bootcamp.. can anyone confirm or deny? also, is the intel extreme graphics chipset adequate for video use?

this isn't going to be a DJ system quite yet, but i'd like to know if anyone has been able to run videos with them.. Thanks!
 
geposted Sun 21 Jan 07 @ 6:04 pm


In Bootcamp video out works (runs real windows nativly)

In Parallell video out does not work (runs windows on top of mac os)

The MacBook PRO seems great, but has one little issue
- One usb port dosent like to be used for low latency intense audio use (drop outs in sound)

But luckily the laptop has more than one USB, and the other(s) works great

;)
 
geposted Sun 21 Jan 07 @ 6:47 pm
Video works PERFECTLY with BootCamp running windows.

PERIOD. =)

I've been using it for video consistently on my MacBook Pro since November.

NO PROBLEMS. ;)

I don't know who the goofballs are on these forums who are saying that there are problems, but there aren't.

When running windows on an Intel Mac using BootCamp, it is a 100% native windows pc.

DO NOT use VT (virtualization Technology) software like Parallels "Desktop for Mac" or VMWare's "Fusion".

Enjoy!
 
geposted Sun 21 Jan 07 @ 10:32 pm
well, I got my macbook... seems to work well... so which usb port is the one to avoid with usb audio?

 
geposted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 3:23 am
only bummer seems to be that the apple trackpad's button won"t do right click.... that sucks...
 
geposted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 3:25 am
You put 2 fingers on the trackpad and click at the same time. That equals a right click on the MacBook Pro and MacBooks.
 
geposted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 3:33 am
Two fingers on the trackpad moving one up, down, left, or right give you an easy way to scroll. Its full controll. I can't even use a normal pad anymore.
 
geposted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 3:35 am
Steve Lynch wrote :
only bummer seems to be that the apple trackpad's button won"t do right click.... that sucks...


Macs have ALWAYS had right click capabilities if you used a 2 button mouse.

On Mac notebooks you've ALWAYS had the option of holding down the a modifier key [ the "option" key] and simultaneously clicking the trackpad button to right click.

The feature that CHARL1E F1VE is talking about was first introduced with Apple's MacBooks and was later added to the MacBook Pro through a software update.

it was one of Apple's ways of showing off it's touch input developments that have now been further introduced with the iPhone... and they've only just begun. ;)

Like C5 said, just place 2 fingers on the trackpad and use your thumb to click. I like that better than 2 buttons on a trackpad. =)
 
geposted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 3:52 am
::ConQuest:: I don't own the MACBOOK PRO yet. Going to purchase the 17in with 2 gig ram and 200 gb hardrive when i get my hands on the MAC version of VDJ or CUE and feel up to emptying my pockets. I currently still use my POWERBOOK G4 with 1.25 gig ram and I think a pretty crappy video card. Do you think there will be any chance I can run VDJ or CUE on the powerbook using only videos? I'd really like to try out the feel of the programs before investing in a new computer. I want to do strictly videos and mostly likely will have to upgrade, but what do you think.

I don't know how to PM you or I would have.
 
geposted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 4:03 am
PS:

If you're looking for a quick way to right-click within Windows XP on Bootcamp, here's a quick and easy utility to make things easier:
http://www.geocities.com/pronto4u/applemouse.html

Have this simple program run at Startup with the /s (for silent)
Any time you need to right-click, just hold CTL and click away. Very slick and handy!

-Woody
 
geposted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 7:14 am
CHARL1E F1VE wrote :
::ConQuest:...I currently still use my POWERBOOK G4 with 1.25 gig ram and I think a pretty crappy video card. Do you think there will be any chance I can run VDJ or CUE on the powerbook using only videos? I'd really like to try out the feel of the programs before investing in a new computer. I want to do strictly videos and mostly likely will have to upgrade, but what do you think.


C5-

You're biggest concern about running Virtual DJ or Virtual Vinyl on your non-Intel, PowerPC Mac is whether or not the Mac version will be "Universal Binary" http://www.apple.com/universal/ which would mean that it could run on both chipsets.

I haven't heard anything about this yet.

If VDJ or VV are UB, then we really would need to know what the PowerPC Mac system requirements are for the software.

Again, I haven't heard anything about this yet either. Maybe someone could answer these questions for us...

NORWAY!!! ;)

I know you said you have 1.25 gigs of ram but I would need to know more about your PowerBook. Processor speed, video card... I need to know more than that it's "pretty crappy" =P..., etc. One thing I can tell you is that your system bus [167 Mhz] is gonna be a big bottle neck for raw video processing power even if the video card is suitable, which is pretty likely.

Look for your video card in this list:
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/62644/General_Discussion/VIDEO_CARD_RANKING_LIST_FOR_VIDEO_MIXING.html?page=1

So the bottom line is, we need to know:
1 - Will VDJ/VV be Universal Binary
2 - If VDJ/VV are UB, then what are the ystem requirements for PowerPC Macs
3 - What are the specs (processor speed, video card) of your PowerPC based PowerBook C5?

I'll inquire about the first 2 C5, meanwhile you need to answer #3 for me though. =)

wedjlouisville wrote :
PS:

If you're looking for a quick way to right-click within Windows XP on Bootcamp, here's a quick and easy utility to make things easier:
http://www.geocities.com/pronto4u/applemouse.html

Have this simple program run at Startup with the /s (for silent)
Any time you need to right-click, just hold CTL and click away. Very slick and handy!

-Woody


Yeah, I've seen that before Woody but that utility was developed before Apple added the 2 finger-click option in Boot Camp because there was no right click option. Besides, why would that be easier than being able to 2 finger-click once you've installed windows using Boot Camp followed by the Mac drivers which enable this feature automatically? There's no need to install a utility that requires you to hold down a modifier key instead of just being able to right-click using your hand that's already on the trackpad.

Just wondering what your thought process or reasoning is seeing as how the whole reason behind Apple having developed the 2-finger click option was to eliminate the need to hold down a mod key and click which is an action that requires 2 hands to do. =)
 
geposted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 10:07 am
:: Specs ::

processor: G4 1.5 ghz
video card: NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 (4X AGP) with 64 MB of DDR SDRAM.
ram: 1.25 gb
hard drive: 80 gb (half full)

Im assuming that VDJ will be universal binary.....

The video card is in the partially outdated section.

Im most likely going to get the MACBOOK PRO shortly here, as im sure ill need more hard drive space for the videos, more speed, and a larger screen. But i'd like to keep this as a possible backup and try VDJ on it until I swindle the $3000 plus for the MACBOOK PRO.

Just trying to anticipate, I got a lot riding on playing all video sets.
 
geposted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 7:09 pm
ConQuest:
How are you saying that video is working on the MacBook? I have a MacBook Pro, but the S-Video output doesn't work AT ALL. And this is not a VDJ issue, its a Bootcamp driver issue. Just because you are running Windows natively doesn't mean everything works.

Can you confirm that you have S-Video output working on a MacBook Pro?????

Thanks
 
geposted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 8:20 pm
charsowbc wrote :
ConQuest:
How are you saying that video is working on the MacBook? I have a MacBook Pro, but the S-Video output doesn't work AT ALL. And this is not a VDJ issue, its a Bootcamp driver issue. Just because you are running Windows natively doesn't mean everything works.

Can you confirm that you have S-Video output working on a MacBook Pro?????

Thanks


This has been confirmed NUMEROUS times by CQ. Video out works.
 
geposted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 8:55 pm
charsowbc wrote :
ConQuest:
How are you saying that video is working on the MacBook? I have a MacBook Pro, but the S-Video output doesn't work AT ALL. And this is not a VDJ issue, its a Bootcamp driver issue. Just because you are running Windows natively doesn't mean everything works.

Can you confirm that you have S-Video output working on a MacBook Pro?????

Thanks


Before going into this, I want to make sure of one thing:

The ONLY logical reason that video might not be working for you is because maybe you are NOT using the LATEST version of Boot Camp, version 1.1.2. http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

If that is the case, then download it, install it [which just upgrades your older version, you don't need to do ANYTHING else like re-install windows] and then burn a new Mac Drivers CD. Then go back into windows and install the new drivers.

If that does not solve the problem then, are you using a DVI to S-Video/RCA composite adapter [like this one: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/61344001/wo/ig4rFSD2ji4G31MWjLp1qH12iN5/2.0.21.1.0.8.25.7.11.3.3 ] to connect to the DVI output of your MacBook Pro?

I'm just using straight DVI to connect to a 26" LCD HD display that I have. I've been using this compact 2' x 4' turntable/mixer coffin w/ LCD set-up at ALL my mobile gigs since November which is when I first tried mixing music videos.

NO PROBLEMS AT ALL WITH VIDEO.

I just plug in the DVI cable to my Macbook Pro, then to the LCD display, then in windows select the 2nd display in the "settings" tab of the properties menu and check the "Extend my desktop to this display" option. Then I launch VirtualDJ and in the video tab in the "config" menu, I check the "activate" box and "use hardware acceleration" box, and then from the pull down menu that by default has "(window)" in it, I select the secondary option that shows up which is my video card "ATI Mobility Radeon x1600".

THAT'S IT!

What I don't understand is, even if you are using an adapter, I find it hard to believe that that in anyway would impair your ability to play video as the video card would still show up in the video tab of the "config" menu.

Let me know if you are using Boot Camp version 1.1.2. If that doesn't work let me know and I'll look further into it. =)

- ConQuest
 
geposted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 11:20 pm
Even if you used the genuine Apple "mini DVI to Video" adapter, everything ConQuest said should still work.
 
geposted Tue 23 Jan 07 @ 12:53 am
anewsome wrote :
Even if you used the genuine Apple "mini DVI to Video" adapter, everything ConQuest said should still work.


Exactly. He seems to not be getting VDJ to recognize the video card and therefore give him the option of extending his windows desktop to a 2nd display since it's not recognizing a 2nd display.

I'll bet he's just using an older version [maybe the 1st version from last April when it was introduced, or possibly the 2nd version] of Boot Camp and needs to upgrade it to 1.1.2.
 
geposted Tue 23 Jan 07 @ 1:55 am
ConQuest wrote :
anewsome wrote :
Even if you used the genuine Apple "mini DVI to Video" adapter, everything ConQuest said should still work.


Exactly. He seems to not be getting VDJ to recognize the video card and therefore give him the option of extending his windows desktop to a 2nd display since it's not recognizing a 2nd display.

I'll bet he's just using an older version [maybe the 1st version from last April when it was introduced, or possibly the 2nd version] of Boot Camp and needs to upgrade it to 1.1.2.


he probably has not checked the "extend desktop to this display" thing. i think that's what it says in the control panel applet.
 
geposted Tue 23 Jan 07 @ 9:24 pm
anewsome wrote :
he probably has not checked the "extend desktop to this display" thing. i think that's what it says in the control panel applet.


Possibly, although I already told him to do that in the previous page of this thread:

ConQuest wrote :
I just plug in the DVI cable to my Macbook Pro, then to the LCD display, then in windows select the 2nd display in the "settings" tab of the properties menu and check the "Extend my desktop to this display" option. Then I launch VirtualDJ and in the video tab in the "config" menu, I check the "activate" box and "use hardware acceleration" box, and then from the pull down menu that by default has "(window)" in it, I select the secondary option that shows up which is my video card "ATI Mobility Radeon x1600".


I'm just waiting to hear back from him now though to see if he has verified that he is running the latest version of Boot Camp AND followed the instructions to extend the desktop to his 2nd display.
 
geposted Wed 24 Jan 07 @ 5:51 am
Steve Lynch wrote :
well, I got my macbook... seems to work well... so which usb port is the one to avoid with usb audio?


According to this post on the OSX USB developers list it seems to be the one furthest to the back, at least on the MacBook.

-Shehryar
 
geposted Tue 27 Mar 07 @ 12:56 am
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