groovindj
ohshit wrote :
Bigron IMHO you are the guilty one.
Bigron IMHO you are the guilty one.
Exactly! I agree with you there.
Ron, you can't just sit there and type things like "I doubt many of you have real experience working in a variety of venues under differing conditions" or " it looked little more than a beginners effort" or "unlike you I'm out there doing my job" without any comeback.
You think those remarks are not insulting? You want respect and yet you say things like that.
Give respect and maybe you'll get some in return.
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 5:13 pm
kradcliffe
I just laugh it off, clearly Ron is delusional.
He has accused me of being amateur and unprofessional many times now, however at the age of 51 I have 3 gigs a week, two in busy nightclubs and another in a large city centre venue. This is my full time job at the moment and after 30 odd years working every weekend except holidays I should know what I'm doing.
If Ron keeps on at this he will get banned from the forum. Just let him hang himself.
He has accused me of being amateur and unprofessional many times now, however at the age of 51 I have 3 gigs a week, two in busy nightclubs and another in a large city centre venue. This is my full time job at the moment and after 30 odd years working every weekend except holidays I should know what I'm doing.
If Ron keeps on at this he will get banned from the forum. Just let him hang himself.
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 5:31 pm
VDJ Ron
I don't really think I should make any more comments..but I will. I don't care.
Groovin you are a expert in many areas but you have neglected video, and karaoke. You have attacked my suggestion that video is the future saying that's been said before and failed. True. But one day.. You seem to be neglecting the most dynamic elements of VDJ. Hence some of my comments.
I've never seen Kradcliffe with anything other than a small screen sub monitor. That's not pushing VDJ. He has not posted his exploits as video DJ ?
Just saying..
I just don't care..if I get banned it will help me, I won't feel obliged to help the young.
Groovin you are a expert in many areas but you have neglected video, and karaoke. You have attacked my suggestion that video is the future saying that's been said before and failed. True. But one day.. You seem to be neglecting the most dynamic elements of VDJ. Hence some of my comments.
I've never seen Kradcliffe with anything other than a small screen sub monitor. That's not pushing VDJ. He has not posted his exploits as video DJ ?
Just saying..
I just don't care..if I get banned it will help me, I won't feel obliged to help the young.
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 6:54 pm
groovindj
I've neglected video and karaoke have I? And you know this how exactly?
FYI just the other day I downloaded the latest update to Arkaos GrandVJ - which I purchased a license for years ago. I have a projector and three different projection screens. No shower curtains. I have a USB video controller for the Arkaos software too.
I could go on, but why should I need to justify myself to you?
As for karaoke well I don't give a rats ar** about it. You can have that market.
FYI just the other day I downloaded the latest update to Arkaos GrandVJ - which I purchased a license for years ago. I have a projector and three different projection screens. No shower curtains. I have a USB video controller for the Arkaos software too.
I could go on, but why should I need to justify myself to you?
As for karaoke well I don't give a rats ar** about it. You can have that market.
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 7:10 pm
VDJ Ron
I've neglected video and karaoke have I? And you know this how exactly?
Do I have to search this forum for your comments?
I will.
You have said here what I stated.
Do I have to search this forum for your comments?
I will.
You have said here what I stated.
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 7:36 pm
music234
Now come on, Gentlemen.
Please. Back to Topic.
Please. Back to Topic.
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 7:40 pm
wildcountryclub
Ron... do you post with low blood sugar or when off your meds? asking for a friend.
I haven't neglected video - been doing that since v3.4 in 2006 and unfortunately I've had to keep up on the karaoke garbage because our sports bar next door does it too and i'm the one who's supposed to make sure it works.
what planet are you living on saying 'its the future'? video is the now and 8.2 does it flawlessly across multiple monitors while also running things like continuous sample loops for logos, advertising videos and stills, customer pics, screen crawls, running TellyVisuals & TellyMedia, and oh yes before the lasers broke from overuse we were also running Pangolin's QuickShow 3.0 on the same pc with the Laserbeat plugin (and it can also do this while the karaoke is playing.) and sometimes even more than that depending on the night.
and guess what? we're NOT pushing vdj to it's full capacity either because while were doing all this there is still more we could do with it and would but the caveat is that we push as far as we want it to go not what someone else says we should.
(but I do push it that hard at home because that's where I do my serious testing)
at the main club where I am resident vdj's video runs from open to close every single night. it currently goes out to 13 hd plasma screens, and we had been on 3 other HD projectors as well -two 12ft and one 25ft wall screens and (before we disconnected them) two old school tube TV's. the final image that goes on them is determined by everything that is in between them and the computer not just vdj. from the video card to the switcher to the screens - there's distance and hardware between them that also determines what it's going to look like on screen.
video at 60fps, skin at 60fps means buttery smooth playback and a nice sharp crisp default skin.
my "exploits" as a video dj using virtualdj? = using it professionally since 2006. before that it was dvd's. and before THAT we even had vhs decks...
I haven't neglected video - been doing that since v3.4 in 2006 and unfortunately I've had to keep up on the karaoke garbage because our sports bar next door does it too and i'm the one who's supposed to make sure it works.
what planet are you living on saying 'its the future'? video is the now and 8.2 does it flawlessly across multiple monitors while also running things like continuous sample loops for logos, advertising videos and stills, customer pics, screen crawls, running TellyVisuals & TellyMedia, and oh yes before the lasers broke from overuse we were also running Pangolin's QuickShow 3.0 on the same pc with the Laserbeat plugin (and it can also do this while the karaoke is playing.) and sometimes even more than that depending on the night.
and guess what? we're NOT pushing vdj to it's full capacity either because while were doing all this there is still more we could do with it and would but the caveat is that we push as far as we want it to go not what someone else says we should.
(but I do push it that hard at home because that's where I do my serious testing)
at the main club where I am resident vdj's video runs from open to close every single night. it currently goes out to 13 hd plasma screens, and we had been on 3 other HD projectors as well -two 12ft and one 25ft wall screens and (before we disconnected them) two old school tube TV's. the final image that goes on them is determined by everything that is in between them and the computer not just vdj. from the video card to the switcher to the screens - there's distance and hardware between them that also determines what it's going to look like on screen.
video at 60fps, skin at 60fps means buttery smooth playback and a nice sharp crisp default skin.
my "exploits" as a video dj using virtualdj? = using it professionally since 2006. before that it was dvd's. and before THAT we even had vhs decks...
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 7:46 pm
VDJ Ron
Wild you are the future..but as yet few follow your lead.
You did it years ago.
A true pioneer..but so what?
And AMAHM, Soulman and Tayla deserve a mention.
You did it years ago.
A true pioneer..but so what?
And AMAHM, Soulman and Tayla deserve a mention.
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 8:06 pm
wildcountryclub
Ron... go dig up threads from years and years and years back - this has all been going on for years.
it is NOT the future. it is commonplace.
wtf is wrong with you?
it is NOT the future. it is commonplace.
wtf is wrong with you?
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 8:19 pm
VDJ Ron
Your wrong..it's not common place yet..but it will be soon.
The thing is hardware and the venues now have it installed as standard. You are a Pioneer ..like it or not.
The thing is hardware and the venues now have it installed as standard. You are a Pioneer ..like it or not.
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 8:27 pm
Moderation staff
music234 wrote :
Now come on, Gentlemen.
Please. Back to Topic.
Please. Back to Topic.
Let’s do this so the topic doesn’t have to be locked unnecessarily.
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 8:29 pm
wildcountryclub
on topic: every club and dj here can't overlook the VirtualDJ brand - it's what we use. and while we are the trend setters, running video around here is absolutely nothing new...
and clubs here have been running video since the 90's and earlier even before this club opened in '98.
and just about everyone here does video - whether they try to run vdj or not. mobile guys here have - and have had it for years - video so they can have text-to-screen capability, video slideshows, music videos and more. the djs that do ONLY video here are in the minority and video gear is NOT that expensive.
and clubs here have been running video since the 90's and earlier even before this club opened in '98.
and just about everyone here does video - whether they try to run vdj or not. mobile guys here have - and have had it for years - video so they can have text-to-screen capability, video slideshows, music videos and more. the djs that do ONLY video here are in the minority and video gear is NOT that expensive.
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 9:08 pm
wildcountryclub
hh73 - the drama was already there, unfortunately sometimes they just can't keep a lid on it.
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 9:10 pm
hh73
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geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 9:16 pm
djles.co.uk
Someone mention my name lol?
My business card tagline is 'It's NOT the future, it's NOW!'. This was in response to customers saying that video DJing is the future. Nope, was doing it right there in front of them lol.
Did full on video DJing with VirtualDJ from 2006 til 2014 with a monthly subscription with Promo Only and built a collection of just under 10,000 videos including all the back catalogue stuff.
I first DJed with video back in 1986 for 2 years with VHS tapes, yes really! I only had one output player and a separate player used only for cueing using a catalog of counter numbers for each song. Played vinyl records back then and every few tunes would use a video. I also made up an advertising video with about ten pages of stuff cycling round created on a BBC Microcomputer. The advertising tape was put in and running until I cued up and swapped tapes for a video tune. It all worked well and people were very impressed. I had the whole town coming in to see the Michael Jackson - Bad video as I was playing it a month to 6 weeks before it appeared on the UK Top Of The Pops lol.
Sadly, I changed markets in 2014 from nightclubs to a Hotel residency doing mainly weddings, corporate functions, parties, etc., and no longer present video. This is down to the company I sub-contract to that don't offer video. Their reasoning is that modern videos are almost soft porn, not nice when grandma & children are present at weddings. I still play the sound from the videos just don't have any screen output. Oh well.
Anybody wanna buy some Promo Only dvds, got around 100 only played once to rip to hard drive lol.
Video Promo (with tagline)
My business card tagline is 'It's NOT the future, it's NOW!'. This was in response to customers saying that video DJing is the future. Nope, was doing it right there in front of them lol.
Did full on video DJing with VirtualDJ from 2006 til 2014 with a monthly subscription with Promo Only and built a collection of just under 10,000 videos including all the back catalogue stuff.
I first DJed with video back in 1986 for 2 years with VHS tapes, yes really! I only had one output player and a separate player used only for cueing using a catalog of counter numbers for each song. Played vinyl records back then and every few tunes would use a video. I also made up an advertising video with about ten pages of stuff cycling round created on a BBC Microcomputer. The advertising tape was put in and running until I cued up and swapped tapes for a video tune. It all worked well and people were very impressed. I had the whole town coming in to see the Michael Jackson - Bad video as I was playing it a month to 6 weeks before it appeared on the UK Top Of The Pops lol.
Sadly, I changed markets in 2014 from nightclubs to a Hotel residency doing mainly weddings, corporate functions, parties, etc., and no longer present video. This is down to the company I sub-contract to that don't offer video. Their reasoning is that modern videos are almost soft porn, not nice when grandma & children are present at weddings. I still play the sound from the videos just don't have any screen output. Oh well.
Anybody wanna buy some Promo Only dvds, got around 100 only played once to rip to hard drive lol.
Video Promo (with tagline)
geposted Mon 23 Oct 17 @ 11:07 pm
A Man and His Music
To the OP, your statement lacks any credible evidence, for one. Another issue is, how many DJs do you actually know? Even if they all overlooked the software, so what? How does that affect you? I learned at an early age, to think for myself, so even though I'm not an island, I make my own decisions. I think that Serato is a great software, it Just does not work for me, and I don't spend anytime thinking about it. If this company never sells another copy of this software, it will not affect my bottom line. I would like to see them succeed, but I have my own business to worry about. I can't believe we are still talking about the way the software looks.
Now for the other issue being discussed here. There is a large amount of doo doo on this forum floor, so I had to roll up my pants. You can only get respect, if you deserve it. If you consistently, misinform, disrupt the natural flow of this forum, make outlandish statements, then you will lose all credibility, and respect. I have been here awhile and there is one common denominator in most, if not all the craziness here. I will not mention any names here, I'll let others be the judge.
I am actually working right now, and just thought that I should put up or shut the puck up, because that is how I do things, There were some stupid and false statements made here. One thing that I know is, if you use inferior equipment, you will get inferior results. If you want to put duck tape on an exhaust manifold, go right ahead, and tell me how that worked out. Get the right equipment for the job that you want to do, and the job will be done right. Use old outdated equipment, and you will continue to come here and cry. So, if you can't multi-task, get better equipment. I was so pissed at the ludicrous falsehoods being said here, that I took out my phone and posted a video of me working right now. Sorry for the way it looks, but as I work in a strip club, I have to be very careful of the camera position. My mixes are not as clean as I would like, but again I was using one hand and trying to show ALL THE THINGS THAT I CAN DO WHILE PLAYING I could have done much more if I had someone else holding the phone. So either put up, or shut the puck up. Look here.
Now for the other issue being discussed here. There is a large amount of doo doo on this forum floor, so I had to roll up my pants. You can only get respect, if you deserve it. If you consistently, misinform, disrupt the natural flow of this forum, make outlandish statements, then you will lose all credibility, and respect. I have been here awhile and there is one common denominator in most, if not all the craziness here. I will not mention any names here, I'll let others be the judge.
I am actually working right now, and just thought that I should put up or shut the puck up, because that is how I do things, There were some stupid and false statements made here. One thing that I know is, if you use inferior equipment, you will get inferior results. If you want to put duck tape on an exhaust manifold, go right ahead, and tell me how that worked out. Get the right equipment for the job that you want to do, and the job will be done right. Use old outdated equipment, and you will continue to come here and cry. So, if you can't multi-task, get better equipment. I was so pissed at the ludicrous falsehoods being said here, that I took out my phone and posted a video of me working right now. Sorry for the way it looks, but as I work in a strip club, I have to be very careful of the camera position. My mixes are not as clean as I would like, but again I was using one hand and trying to show ALL THE THINGS THAT I CAN DO WHILE PLAYING I could have done much more if I had someone else holding the phone. So either put up, or shut the puck up. Look here.
geposted Tue 24 Oct 17 @ 1:22 am
hh73
watch boileroom. go to actual clubs, watch djs on youtube. read the serato and NI forums. watch ellaskins video comparisions. and i know derrick carter, tenaglia, david harness, from the gay party scene. see, its about the music. and thats it. but if you are young, (im not talking groupie) and have lots of questions and show a true interest in the music. i mean the people who stay till 11am kinda people. you learn things.
some cannot even install a video card driver. but if someone new or a friends wants to start dj. they will like a robot say. PIONEER and TRAKTOR. serato is for turntablists. not really mixing. but rekordbox has taken over.
and since i paid hundreds of bucks for this software, i think i am entitled to make a suggestion. thats all it was. i never once cititized the software did i. but if you dont think get the message. your defensiveness shows it. and MILLIONS of djs are using this. have you ever heard of a website called "the dj list". its pretty big. but it goes up to 60k? why dont you look and see what they are runnning.
and dont ever come at me like that again.
some cannot even install a video card driver. but if someone new or a friends wants to start dj. they will like a robot say. PIONEER and TRAKTOR. serato is for turntablists. not really mixing. but rekordbox has taken over.
and since i paid hundreds of bucks for this software, i think i am entitled to make a suggestion. thats all it was. i never once cititized the software did i. but if you dont think get the message. your defensiveness shows it. and MILLIONS of djs are using this. have you ever heard of a website called "the dj list". its pretty big. but it goes up to 60k? why dont you look and see what they are runnning.
and dont ever come at me like that again.
geposted Tue 24 Oct 17 @ 5:05 am
hh73
and obv i do think for myself if i am at this forum. its like technics decks. now there are better ones. but people will but it, and wear the t shirt because its cool. if you want to look at my friends list in fb or twitter. it will show you who i talk too. i am from nyc. and in germany now. i bought a house and dont do the party scene anymore too much. here its too too wild. but boileroom is a HUGE influence right now. some episodes. like solomun and maceo plex have millions of views. i never say anyone use vdj. and ive watched hundreds. THAT is the future too. because those kids watch will but what they see.
now im getting attention, however minor to play some afterhours parties. but its all rekordbox.
now im getting attention, however minor to play some afterhours parties. but its all rekordbox.
geposted Tue 24 Oct 17 @ 5:12 am
A Man and His Music
I don't care about any of those websites, or what other people are using. Why, because it does not affect me. If it affects you in some way, please explain. I am a working DJ, 3 nights in this club, guest spots in others, and mobile. I do a lot of corporate events, and weddings. I am not sitting at home reading what other people are saying on some website. None of it affects the amount of gigs I get, or the amount of money I make. This is how I eat, so what some clown says on a website, is meaningless to me. I'm a grown up and not easily influenced by what other people are doing. I have never been a follower, and don't deal with people that are. I also paid for this software, and it was nothing compared to what I've made. We have a wish list, and you are welcome to post anything that you want on these forums, as I don't own it. Again, if it bothers you what other people are saying about this software, I can't help you, because this subject is as old as this forum.
The club is closed now, and I will go home and count my money.
The club is closed now, and I will go home and count my money.
geposted Tue 24 Oct 17 @ 5:56 am
hh73
look im just trying to get "On" in different circles. i dont care what people think either. BUT sadly my scene i love so much has become very much driven by money and corperate.
end note. sorry if i offended anyone. i was just wondering. i do that.
but the rest of the off topic stuff is pettyness. im not naming names.
anyway. i dont do online fights. i dont need to prove anything. i just love music and want to mix. but some really nice people here. and i never had an issue till yesterday.
happy mixing
end note. sorry if i offended anyone. i was just wondering. i do that.
but the rest of the off topic stuff is pettyness. im not naming names.
anyway. i dont do online fights. i dont need to prove anything. i just love music and want to mix. but some really nice people here. and i never had an issue till yesterday.
happy mixing
geposted Tue 24 Oct 17 @ 6:11 am
