djcity
Is there ANY difference between vdj internet special and the vdj pro? if not... I will purchase internet special and get to work with it. Also... How do you get the auto BPM to work correctly. I can put a song on the deck and KNOW the BPM is about 98 but the auto BPM will be in the high 100's I spin Hip Hop, R&B Reggae, House, Washington D.C. Go Go. and Old School Funk. I would love the auto BPM to work correctly because I HATE doing it by hand.
Thanx people
and HAPPY NEW YEAR
Thanx people
and HAPPY NEW YEAR
geposted Sat 31 Dec 05 @ 7:00 pm
mp3jrick
There is no difference in the two.
The Pro version was provided because demand for off line installs are sometimes necessary.
The cost difference is to cover handling and associated costs.
Search the forum on the bpm issues, you are not the first, hip hop gives it a hard time.
Also, study the anchors as they will show you drift and indicate corrrect bpm by eye.
(the square blocks under the waveform)
The Pro version was provided because demand for off line installs are sometimes necessary.
The cost difference is to cover handling and associated costs.
Search the forum on the bpm issues, you are not the first, hip hop gives it a hard time.
Also, study the anchors as they will show you drift and indicate corrrect bpm by eye.
(the square blocks under the waveform)
geposted Sat 31 Dec 05 @ 8:20 pm
Dj Xeo
at the end of the day im pretty sure that matching 2 songs by hand and mapping a CBG takes about the same ammount of time. and heres the clincher. with CBG you only have to do it once, ever!
geposted Mon 02 Jan 06 @ 1:47 am
Bren F
Get them figures as accurate as you can man!
Providing your useing the latest version of VDJ your BPM's should be pretty good, it's better than many BPM detection programs/players.
You know you have 2 detection engines. one is for all music (complex) and one is for house/techno (4/4) music.
Generally when you analyze all of your collection together I'd go for "all music", this generally provides the better figure, now then, list the songs in the file browser in order of BPM, go to either extreme, the top of the list and the bottom.
At the top of the list you probably have some R'n'B/Hip Hop/Rock music listed with BPM's from 150-180bpm, in this case you should select all the songs that look odd in this range (music that is slower but has an extremely high BPM), analyze it with the other engine (House/Techno) and see the results, normally this fixes a few but not all. If you have values remaining so high you should right hand mouse click on the files individually and select "Edit BPM", now select half, this will half the value and probably perfect the BPM value.
It's important to consider now that when you get a reading for a R'n'B/Hip Hop/Pop/rock song at 160-180BPM it's NORMALLY because the BPM engine has counted the off beat as a beat and hence doubled the BPM, this is particuarly true for songs with a complex beat structure like R'n'B and Hip Hop often has.
At the bottom of the list where you might have House and Techno at 65-80BPM, use the house/techno detection and these figures will be corrected instantely, If some don't budge then go into edit BPM again and double the figure displayed. Always bare in mind what is realistic for the song/style.
Now you've sorted out both sides of the extreme you might find a few songs in the mid BPM range a bit out of place, in this case Analyze the song again with the different BPM detection setting, this normally solves those odd few.
Do be sure the new BPM value is correct. The way to test if it's exactly correct is to load the song onto a deck and create a loop on the first beat, if the loop is perfect so is the BPM, if it is not your BPM is bad.
When these measures are taken you'll find that 98-99% of your BPM's are accurate to dead on. This is what people do who care about their BPM's ;).
Lastly bear in mind that their is no BPM detection program/CD player that is 100% right on 100% of the criteria it reads, some are just better than others.
Bagpuss.
Providing your useing the latest version of VDJ your BPM's should be pretty good, it's better than many BPM detection programs/players.
You know you have 2 detection engines. one is for all music (complex) and one is for house/techno (4/4) music.
Generally when you analyze all of your collection together I'd go for "all music", this generally provides the better figure, now then, list the songs in the file browser in order of BPM, go to either extreme, the top of the list and the bottom.
At the top of the list you probably have some R'n'B/Hip Hop/Rock music listed with BPM's from 150-180bpm, in this case you should select all the songs that look odd in this range (music that is slower but has an extremely high BPM), analyze it with the other engine (House/Techno) and see the results, normally this fixes a few but not all. If you have values remaining so high you should right hand mouse click on the files individually and select "Edit BPM", now select half, this will half the value and probably perfect the BPM value.
It's important to consider now that when you get a reading for a R'n'B/Hip Hop/Pop/rock song at 160-180BPM it's NORMALLY because the BPM engine has counted the off beat as a beat and hence doubled the BPM, this is particuarly true for songs with a complex beat structure like R'n'B and Hip Hop often has.
At the bottom of the list where you might have House and Techno at 65-80BPM, use the house/techno detection and these figures will be corrected instantely, If some don't budge then go into edit BPM again and double the figure displayed. Always bare in mind what is realistic for the song/style.
Now you've sorted out both sides of the extreme you might find a few songs in the mid BPM range a bit out of place, in this case Analyze the song again with the different BPM detection setting, this normally solves those odd few.
Do be sure the new BPM value is correct. The way to test if it's exactly correct is to load the song onto a deck and create a loop on the first beat, if the loop is perfect so is the BPM, if it is not your BPM is bad.
When these measures are taken you'll find that 98-99% of your BPM's are accurate to dead on. This is what people do who care about their BPM's ;).
Lastly bear in mind that their is no BPM detection program/CD player that is 100% right on 100% of the criteria it reads, some are just better than others.
Bagpuss.
geposted Mon 02 Jan 06 @ 2:42 am
valero
(I am bad speak in inglesh) i am new uzer on this forum, can you tell my how i dowland sound effekts?
geposted Mon 02 Jan 06 @ 11:51 am
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
sound effects are for full users only, sorry
geposted Mon 02 Jan 06 @ 12:18 pm
carryshel
Thanks for the info on bpm guys. I would like to know how to lock the bpm after it has been analysed. I find that after I find the correct bpms in my collection, when I play the songs, they are automatically 're-analysed' and the bpms are changed. The auto bpm is off in settings btw.
When I use traktor, there is an option there to lock the bpm after you found the correct bpm of a song.
Is a similar option available in Vdj?
Thanks in advance
When I use traktor, there is an option there to lock the bpm after you found the correct bpm of a song.
Is a similar option available in Vdj?
Thanks in advance
geposted Tue 14 Mar 06 @ 4:13 pm
Bren F
Hi carryshel, You only have to set the BPM once and it will remain at that figure forever. When you analyze a song, you get BPM data etc, after you have closed the program this then saves to a database file and is then read from when you open the software again.
The only time this is not the case is if you don't close VDJ properly, such as terminating through the task manager or a crash (which is rare).
If have manually edited a BPM's value you just need to "ok" it in the "Edit BPM window" and it will never change that value unless you do so yourself, when loading an anyalzed file or 'edited' file it's values will not change, it will just load the file into memory.
I think this answers your question, unless your BPM values are still changing when you load them onto a deck under these conditions?
Good luck and let us know how you get on :).
The only time this is not the case is if you don't close VDJ properly, such as terminating through the task manager or a crash (which is rare).
If have manually edited a BPM's value you just need to "ok" it in the "Edit BPM window" and it will never change that value unless you do so yourself, when loading an anyalzed file or 'edited' file it's values will not change, it will just load the file into memory.
I think this answers your question, unless your BPM values are still changing when you load them onto a deck under these conditions?
Good luck and let us know how you get on :).
geposted Tue 14 Mar 06 @ 4:44 pm