I didn't want to steal someone else's thread but the SMS idea got me motivated...
Funny how there a tons of threads about:
Serato vs VDJ
pc vs mac
Denon vs Pioneer
TT vs controler
which sound cards
which video cards
ECT>>>
BUT we have very little threads of all the cool ideas that can done with VDJ like the SMS. Hell, we all here can brag about eqp or mixing skills but at the end of the day, the manager has complete control over our paychecks. We need to start sharing IDEAS. Whether it's my day job or night job I like to give a better value than what my paychecks says. Djing is something I would do for free, it's not a job to me. I'm sure some of you feel the same. Yes, we very easily lose sight of this but the reality is we get paid very well, to do what we do.
They did a survey on top paying jobs to have and DJing was at the top of the list.. $ vs hrs
I'll get the ball rolling -
because I don't like to use the mic very much, I create video adverts of everthing I would say on the mic. I find this to be better I candy and save me the crappy interuptions every 15 - 30 minutes with all the advertising of drinks and promotions. I will sometime get to work about 30 - 45 min early and bang an advert out using text2d especially if I see a bridal party or big birthday partying in the corner somewhere. For me it has worked very well because the people like the attention in bright lights and colors displayed. I see people run up to the dj booth to put names and birthdays up on the screen. Then I'll go home and use a video creator like VEGAS to make it more EYE CANDY for the bars promotions.
Just one of the ideas I do.... What is one of yours?
Funny how there a tons of threads about:
Serato vs VDJ
pc vs mac
Denon vs Pioneer
TT vs controler
which sound cards
which video cards
ECT>>>
BUT we have very little threads of all the cool ideas that can done with VDJ like the SMS. Hell, we all here can brag about eqp or mixing skills but at the end of the day, the manager has complete control over our paychecks. We need to start sharing IDEAS. Whether it's my day job or night job I like to give a better value than what my paychecks says. Djing is something I would do for free, it's not a job to me. I'm sure some of you feel the same. Yes, we very easily lose sight of this but the reality is we get paid very well, to do what we do.
They did a survey on top paying jobs to have and DJing was at the top of the list.. $ vs hrs
I'll get the ball rolling -
because I don't like to use the mic very much, I create video adverts of everthing I would say on the mic. I find this to be better I candy and save me the crappy interuptions every 15 - 30 minutes with all the advertising of drinks and promotions. I will sometime get to work about 30 - 45 min early and bang an advert out using text2d especially if I see a bridal party or big birthday partying in the corner somewhere. For me it has worked very well because the people like the attention in bright lights and colors displayed. I see people run up to the dj booth to put names and birthdays up on the screen. Then I'll go home and use a video creator like VEGAS to make it more EYE CANDY for the bars promotions.
Just one of the ideas I do.... What is one of yours?
geposted Thu 23 Apr 09 @ 9:26 am
im currently investigating blue tooth to advertise in the local area. would be nice if i could set it up with send us your pics and run this all from within VDJ (will do this myself eventually but day work commitments are slowing my projects down :(
geposted Thu 23 Apr 09 @ 11:17 am
The problem with saying Djing is one of the highest paying jobs based on $ vs Hrs has three major flaws.
(1) It is an average of the industry "Professionals". The real average is significantly lowered by all of the "non professional" djs that are doing gigs for free or drink tabs....a good number of those jobs would be professional if the amatuers weren't taking them (how many plumbers are ou there doing it for the fun of it keeping what would be a paying job off the market)
(2) Most Djs never say what they really make and are paid cash. Most claim to make more than they do (or sometimes we claim to make less just so the potential cheapskates don't even bother trying ot undercut you) and most owners claim to pay less than they do. So their is no accurate way to judge what any average is.
(3) They only judge what you get for your actual booth time.....we all know we work 80 hours per week behind the scene to prepare and be ready for our 20 hour per week booth time......that 80 hours never gets counted (you never see anyone at wal-mart organizing the shelves off the clock just so when they are one the clock they can better assist the customers)!
Don't get me wrong, I would not trade Djing for any other job (at 48 I have certainly had my chances), but there is so much about what we do that the general public doesn't know about or realize. If they did, maybe we would be a better paying industry (and maybe bar owners more ethical as well)!
(1) It is an average of the industry "Professionals". The real average is significantly lowered by all of the "non professional" djs that are doing gigs for free or drink tabs....a good number of those jobs would be professional if the amatuers weren't taking them (how many plumbers are ou there doing it for the fun of it keeping what would be a paying job off the market)
(2) Most Djs never say what they really make and are paid cash. Most claim to make more than they do (or sometimes we claim to make less just so the potential cheapskates don't even bother trying ot undercut you) and most owners claim to pay less than they do. So their is no accurate way to judge what any average is.
(3) They only judge what you get for your actual booth time.....we all know we work 80 hours per week behind the scene to prepare and be ready for our 20 hour per week booth time......that 80 hours never gets counted (you never see anyone at wal-mart organizing the shelves off the clock just so when they are one the clock they can better assist the customers)!
Don't get me wrong, I would not trade Djing for any other job (at 48 I have certainly had my chances), but there is so much about what we do that the general public doesn't know about or realize. If they did, maybe we would be a better paying industry (and maybe bar owners more ethical as well)!
geposted Thu 23 Apr 09 @ 3:49 pm
@ Electric
I appreciate the reply but whether or not the article was valid or not was not my concern. I just was pointing out that we get paid better than average. Most would have to work 7-8 hours versus 4-5 hours. Would it be safe a to say that most get paid at least $20 - $25 playing time. Either way, half the county would probably kill for a DJs payscale. Hell, you made your thread saying that businesses are saying that they can't afford you vs what they bring in when a good DJ plays and entertains.
@ charley
I understand what your saying but that wasn't the point of the statement. The point was that I enjoy what I do that it's not a job to me. I've been a professional dj since the 80s where I started my business in 89 and I certainly have put in grunt work and continue to do so. Of course I wouldnt do it for free except on certain situations. Currently, I get above average locally and my wedding contracts I not saying this to brag or anything just defining a point. I'm upset that I have to rethink my contracts for next year due to the economy.
Come on guys, The point of the thread is to share ideas on your use of VDJ creatively. If I made mistakes in my statements then I apologize for my statements if it offended anyone.
I appreciate the reply but whether or not the article was valid or not was not my concern. I just was pointing out that we get paid better than average. Most would have to work 7-8 hours versus 4-5 hours. Would it be safe a to say that most get paid at least $20 - $25 playing time. Either way, half the county would probably kill for a DJs payscale. Hell, you made your thread saying that businesses are saying that they can't afford you vs what they bring in when a good DJ plays and entertains.
@ charley
I understand what your saying but that wasn't the point of the statement. The point was that I enjoy what I do that it's not a job to me. I've been a professional dj since the 80s where I started my business in 89 and I certainly have put in grunt work and continue to do so. Of course I wouldnt do it for free except on certain situations. Currently, I get above average locally and my wedding contracts I not saying this to brag or anything just defining a point. I'm upset that I have to rethink my contracts for next year due to the economy.
Come on guys, The point of the thread is to share ideas on your use of VDJ creatively. If I made mistakes in my statements then I apologize for my statements if it offended anyone.
geposted Thu 23 Apr 09 @ 10:23 pm
fatkatzdj:
I understood what you were asking in your post and I do most of what you described with video as well. I also don't care much for talking on the microphone, I don't say a lot other than a few shout outs. I don't think a females voice sounds so good trying to scream over the bar noise.
One other thing I do which is an excellent tool is I have friends take LOTS of photos of the peeps and I use them later to make slideshows. The customers know when they return they are more than likely will see themselves splashed on the big screen. This also goes for employees, waitresses, bartenders, OWNERS, etc.
Any DJ who hasn't learned the art of "PR" and club politics should keep the o'le day job as a reliable backup.
~R~
I understood what you were asking in your post and I do most of what you described with video as well. I also don't care much for talking on the microphone, I don't say a lot other than a few shout outs. I don't think a females voice sounds so good trying to scream over the bar noise.
One other thing I do which is an excellent tool is I have friends take LOTS of photos of the peeps and I use them later to make slideshows. The customers know when they return they are more than likely will see themselves splashed on the big screen. This also goes for employees, waitresses, bartenders, OWNERS, etc.
Any DJ who hasn't learned the art of "PR" and club politics should keep the o'le day job as a reliable backup.
~R~
geposted Fri 24 Apr 09 @ 7:25 am
Well... my Idea was always to bind people to me, and i did this with my web site. I have a community of about 80 people that comes always there where I am. I take pictures of the party and post them later online on my website, so people come there, register, and takes a look around on the pics. I am not interessed in doing PR for the Locations, and the clubs will only be shown when i have a gig in the near future on my site. In fact the Owners book me becouse i bring a lot of people with me, and my community is growing. Going on I have contacts and contracts to gogos, security, equipment resellers etc. what i also can bring to the club owners to cheaper prices.
I also don´t like to chat much over the Mic, and I use to let speak the music for me. :-)
I also don´t like to chat much over the Mic, and I use to let speak the music for me. :-)
geposted Fri 24 Apr 09 @ 7:55 am