beardedbil
Will someone please explain to me why my Mac Pro can not seem to play two music videos at the same time (cross fading) without either slowing down both videos, stuttering, or freezing?
I am running mac os x 10.6.2 with all updates.
Processor 2 x 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
8 GB 1066 MHz DDR3 memory
and running the videos from a SSD!!!! (Solid State Hard Drive)
This computer has been used in concerts to supply HD video to screens, yet can't play music videos smoothly on Virtual DJ?
How is this computer not able to handle two mp4s? or two VOBs from promo only?
I have tried different skins, both decoding and not decoding videos while hidden, it gets a little better when i have the audio mixer portion of Virtual DJ up but forget about trying to use the video mixer... it makes videos even SLOWER! I have also tried to use the quicktime video codec instead of the internal one, but it just doesn't work at all. As soon as i change to quicktime codecs videos stop loading all together.
I am not even trying to do anything fancy but this software just can't transition between two music videos without skipping, freezing, stuttering, flashing etc. This has to be a software issue as looking on this forum a good percentage of people have the same problem.
This needs to be fixed QUICKLY.... very disappointed.
I am running mac os x 10.6.2 with all updates.
Processor 2 x 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
8 GB 1066 MHz DDR3 memory
and running the videos from a SSD!!!! (Solid State Hard Drive)
This computer has been used in concerts to supply HD video to screens, yet can't play music videos smoothly on Virtual DJ?
How is this computer not able to handle two mp4s? or two VOBs from promo only?
I have tried different skins, both decoding and not decoding videos while hidden, it gets a little better when i have the audio mixer portion of Virtual DJ up but forget about trying to use the video mixer... it makes videos even SLOWER! I have also tried to use the quicktime video codec instead of the internal one, but it just doesn't work at all. As soon as i change to quicktime codecs videos stop loading all together.
I am not even trying to do anything fancy but this software just can't transition between two music videos without skipping, freezing, stuttering, flashing etc. This has to be a software issue as looking on this forum a good percentage of people have the same problem.
This needs to be fixed QUICKLY.... very disappointed.
geposted Fri 22 Jan 10 @ 11:44 am
therealvader
Im using the Macbook Pro Unibody 08. On the VDJ PRo video mixer setup skin, it is laggy, however if you have a small video window pop open, it doesn't lag even while the mixer skin does. Give that a try and monitor the window. Im not at this time worried about it, but it would be nice to see the 3 video screens off the skin not lag. Maybe due to the turntables spinning at the same time.
I am satisfied, but I'd like to see the monitors stop lagging so I don't have to feel like I have to look at the small window. What specs do you have on your Mac Pro? When did you get it?
-DJ Half
I am satisfied, but I'd like to see the monitors stop lagging so I don't have to feel like I have to look at the small window. What specs do you have on your Mac Pro? When did you get it?
-DJ Half
geposted Sat 23 Jan 10 @ 10:09 am
djsalcortez
Having the EXACT same issues as described on a MacBook Pro 2.4 intel core 2 duo 4gigs ram 320gb 7200rpm hard drive using on the Numark NS7. This is a MAJOR issue. Just paid for the Pro Upgrade to my disappointment.
geposted Sat 23 Jan 10 @ 12:55 pm
Nemisius
Having the same issues as described on a MacBook Pro 1.8 intel core duo 1gig ram 320gb 7200rpm hard drive - Mines much older than you guys but this seems to be an issue with the application itself. Didn't happen on an older version on a friends identical system. If it is happening on your higher end systems there is not much chance until they optimize some of the video engine used. --------- But there are a few things that has helped mitigate the slow down for me:
1. Make a new User profile for DJ.
2. No internet use - Safari I'm looking at you, using the features in Virtual DJ is a different story so you should be fine.
3. Config - Settings - Codecs - set .mp4 .mov .m4v etc are Quicktime native Set them to be decoded by quicktime.
So far so good for my system but please let me know if it gets fixed in a later version so I can switch over completely and go Pro with this.
Thx
1. Make a new User profile for DJ.
2. No internet use - Safari I'm looking at you, using the features in Virtual DJ is a different story so you should be fine.
3. Config - Settings - Codecs - set .mp4 .mov .m4v etc are Quicktime native Set them to be decoded by quicktime.
So far so good for my system but please let me know if it gets fixed in a later version so I can switch over completely and go Pro with this.
Thx
geposted Sat 23 Jan 10 @ 6:14 pm
Reventon
This is a major problem that needs to be fixed. I have a 2009 2.93mhz MBP, top of the line laptop set me back $3k and still can't play high res videos through VDJ smoothly!
geposted Sun 24 Jan 10 @ 9:11 pm
darknight566
yeah i've heard no good news for video djing running smoothly. on older slower macs w/ at least 2 Ghz 2gb ddr3 ram. and from this post. works fine on windows xp sp3 on my mac though. running through parallels v5.
geposted Mon 25 Jan 10 @ 3:44 pm
Nemisius
So it seems to be as I suspected: the issue is software specific and hardware agnostic.
To be sure my video is H264 720x480
1. Quicktime 7 I can run up to 7 native size videos at the same time with no lag.
2. Megaseg will play and mix 2 files with the same for ambient video running in the background while Quicktime plays 2 or 3 videos without lag.
3. Setting quicktime files to native an not the internal decoder helps
The issue seems to be the video engine or pipeline on the mac version is too small and does not buffer properly.
Vista running on a Macbook pro has no issues (other than vista itself is a pig )
Anyone else have anything to add or contribute what types of file types and bit rates they are using?
Having some specifics for VDJ to test against would help
To be sure my video is H264 720x480
1. Quicktime 7 I can run up to 7 native size videos at the same time with no lag.
2. Megaseg will play and mix 2 files with the same for ambient video running in the background while Quicktime plays 2 or 3 videos without lag.
3. Setting quicktime files to native an not the internal decoder helps
The issue seems to be the video engine or pipeline on the mac version is too small and does not buffer properly.
Vista running on a Macbook pro has no issues (other than vista itself is a pig )
Anyone else have anything to add or contribute what types of file types and bit rates they are using?
Having some specifics for VDJ to test against would help
geposted Mon 25 Jan 10 @ 9:12 pm
slashone
Same Video Problems here. I want my money back and I'm serious. The old version worked better. WTF. I'll just keep using serato with my old decks. I guess I'll just have to haul around extra crap and not use my new NS7. I'm sorry but headphones don't work either...... What a disappointment. I can't believe apple endorsed this product on their website.
Shame, Shame for 300 bucks, What a waist. Can I claim a loss on my taxes..lol
Peace,
Dj Slash
www.bombsquadnwi.com
Shame, Shame for 300 bucks, What a waist. Can I claim a loss on my taxes..lol
Peace,
Dj Slash
www.bombsquadnwi.com
geposted Tue 26 Jan 10 @ 4:06 pm
djsalcortez
Virtual Dj Pro $350.... MacBook Pro $1500.... Numark NS7 $1,200.... NS7 Case $300.... Flawless Video.... Apparently Priceless LoL.... waaaaiiitt is that funny?? ha anyways I tried changing default to quick time but video does not show am i doing something wrong??? I can hear but not see..
geposted Tue 26 Jan 10 @ 10:50 pm
Nemisius
Virtual Dj Pro $350.... MacBook Pro $1500.... Numark NS7 $1,200.... NS7 Case $300.... Flawless Video.... Apparently Priceless LoL.... waaaaiiitt is that funny?? ha anyways I tried changing default to quick time but video does not show am i doing something wrong??? I can hear but not see..
If it wasn't a painful deal killer it would be funny - Quicktime video decoder is a fail - not sure why. It appeared to work but when I went back into Codecs it was back on Internal Video decoder. Restarted after reboot and videos got the error and wouldn't load...
So I'm back to the original issue and thought that it is definitely a VDJ application issue on Mac. The video engine needs to be reworked to make better use of native resources.
If it wasn't a painful deal killer it would be funny - Quicktime video decoder is a fail - not sure why. It appeared to work but when I went back into Codecs it was back on Internal Video decoder. Restarted after reboot and videos got the error and wouldn't load...
So I'm back to the original issue and thought that it is definitely a VDJ application issue on Mac. The video engine needs to be reworked to make better use of native resources.
geposted Wed 27 Jan 10 @ 8:03 pm
Nemisius
A few things I find alarming on the mac my 4 yr old MBP 1.8ghz core duo included:
1. VDJ seems to use under 200mb of RAM and does not or can not be offered more.
2. VDJ will use virtual RAM ( much slower) even with the option to use actual RAM in it's place.
3. VDJ does not seem to be using the video card or it's resources for decoding instead relying on the CPU for decoding. PC version has this as an option.
The end result is with version 6 it doesn't matter how much RAM you have or what video card is used, different processors will have a boost but this is negated by the limitation of RAM the program uses.
Hope I found this out and you are all welcome to try and compare notes is:
1. Open "Activity Monitor" (Applications>Utilities>Activity Monitor)
2. Ran Virtual DJ and set up 2 m4v videos and did not use a video skin. Got them to play on my Macbook Pro 18.3 intel core duo at the same time! Mixing with effects is right out and the interface slows as does the video output.
Processor use goes through the roof and Activity monitor reports 100% CPU usage, 1.3gb memory available and that virtual DJ is using about 200mb of RAM with 180mb of Virtual RAM.
I tried the demo on a mac mini 2Ghz Core 2 Duo with an intel GMA950 64mb shared and got better performance but have not tried this test.
Another thing that boosted performance was Open "Activity Monitor" (Applications>Utilities>Activity Monitor) and killed a few non essential processes.\
My suggestions to the mac programmers at Atomix is to allow VDJ to make better use of available Memory and less use of virtual memory if possible. Also the internal video decoder needs to be optimized and should make use of apple's own video resources.
Need an option that supports hardware acceleration.
1. VDJ seems to use under 200mb of RAM and does not or can not be offered more.
2. VDJ will use virtual RAM ( much slower) even with the option to use actual RAM in it's place.
3. VDJ does not seem to be using the video card or it's resources for decoding instead relying on the CPU for decoding. PC version has this as an option.
The end result is with version 6 it doesn't matter how much RAM you have or what video card is used, different processors will have a boost but this is negated by the limitation of RAM the program uses.
Hope I found this out and you are all welcome to try and compare notes is:
1. Open "Activity Monitor" (Applications>Utilities>Activity Monitor)
2. Ran Virtual DJ and set up 2 m4v videos and did not use a video skin. Got them to play on my Macbook Pro 18.3 intel core duo at the same time! Mixing with effects is right out and the interface slows as does the video output.
Processor use goes through the roof and Activity monitor reports 100% CPU usage, 1.3gb memory available and that virtual DJ is using about 200mb of RAM with 180mb of Virtual RAM.
I tried the demo on a mac mini 2Ghz Core 2 Duo with an intel GMA950 64mb shared and got better performance but have not tried this test.
Another thing that boosted performance was Open "Activity Monitor" (Applications>Utilities>Activity Monitor) and killed a few non essential processes.\
My suggestions to the mac programmers at Atomix is to allow VDJ to make better use of available Memory and less use of virtual memory if possible. Also the internal video decoder needs to be optimized and should make use of apple's own video resources.
Need an option that supports hardware acceleration.
geposted Wed 10 Feb 10 @ 3:30 pm
soquickwitit
Cause this program sucks and continues to. Just hope that serato itch or someone else comes with something better.
geposted Wed 10 Feb 10 @ 5:44 pm
Nemisius
Not a very fair assessment but the effort that they have put into a core feature with video is sad and pathetic at best.
If they open up that memory bottle neck and optimize the decoder to use Core Video on the mac it will be pretty sweet indeed.
I have played with boinx tv which can manipulate 4 video streams (firewire cams, usb cams and video) on the fly and output to a monitor that depends on core video so it can be done. Atomix just needs to tap into the programming tools from apple and allow for hardware support...
If they open up that memory bottle neck and optimize the decoder to use Core Video on the mac it will be pretty sweet indeed.
I have played with boinx tv which can manipulate 4 video streams (firewire cams, usb cams and video) on the fly and output to a monitor that depends on core video so it can be done. Atomix just needs to tap into the programming tools from apple and allow for hardware support...
geposted Thu 11 Feb 10 @ 10:15 am
delphi94
For those that are running Windows on a Mac, how are you getting the mini dvi to S-video/rca to work? I can't get windows to recognize the dang thing. It recognized the mini dvi to dvi, but not the s-video/rca adapter. Went to the mac store who couldn't provide any answers. Mac tech support said, no drivers were written for it & couldn't help. Searched the internet and couldn't find any help either. I'm using the newest version of bootcamp on Snow leopard.
geposted Fri 12 Feb 10 @ 6:07 pm
mp3jrick
Once Mac sees that adapter, it should begin discovery.
Click on settings in the dock, then display.
Then click on detect displays and it should open two windows.
Just adjust the resolution you want for the second window and save or close.
Click on settings in the dock, then display.
Then click on detect displays and it should open two windows.
Just adjust the resolution you want for the second window and save or close.
geposted Fri 12 Feb 10 @ 6:49 pm
Nemisius
At the risk of beating a dead horse, mp3jrick, is there any reason why Atomix will not address any of these issues other than the easy to solve ones? We have to use bootcamp and run the windows version because the ported copy of VDJ on the mac side is crippled and good for audio only on most machines due to limited memory support and no hardware support.
geposted Tue 09 Mar 10 @ 11:28 am
cstoll
Nemisius - I you would purchase a Pro license then I think your comments would hold a bit more water ... but since you don't have a legal Pro version I will chalk up your comments to a BAD crack.
geposted Tue 09 Mar 10 @ 7:02 pm
DJ Cyder
yeah 6.01 had some issues that were corrected in 6.05, then 6.07 corrected those issues that were in 6.05. Might be worth it to check out the latest trial.
geposted Tue 09 Mar 10 @ 10:23 pm
Nemisius
cstoll - that bad crack was your broken trail version from your website and a legal purchased copy that a friend of mine is running. If it wasn't for dual boot and the fact that he has mostly ever worked with PC's he would be pretty upset about the $320 for the software and $3200 Macbook Pro that has issues running video on the OSX side...
But rather than looking into the issue that Your company has with the MAC port of Virtual DJ you resort to that standard tag line you just copy and pasted time and time again in the forums. I pointed out in both the forums and in a support ticket exact points that mirror other's issues with your product and trial version - which is a time limited full version. Your company did not respond.
Sorry - I'm not buying it till these issues are resolved and I am not recommended it to anyone else for that matter.
Now that being said and because your hiding being the "you have to buy a pro version for it to work", It doesn't, it hasn't as evident in testing and by others accounts with video mixing on multiple computers and Atomix has been completely apathetic and unresponsive so far regarding this bad port of software. I'm not buying it and if I did I would be pretty upset with your company for the complete waste of money and loss of features. Not to mention that price would motive me to personally pay you a visit demanding my money back.
So please refrain from unintelligent comments they reflect poorly on yourself and the company you represent.
But rather than looking into the issue that Your company has with the MAC port of Virtual DJ you resort to that standard tag line you just copy and pasted time and time again in the forums. I pointed out in both the forums and in a support ticket exact points that mirror other's issues with your product and trial version - which is a time limited full version. Your company did not respond.
Sorry - I'm not buying it till these issues are resolved and I am not recommended it to anyone else for that matter.
Now that being said and because your hiding being the "you have to buy a pro version for it to work", It doesn't, it hasn't as evident in testing and by others accounts with video mixing on multiple computers and Atomix has been completely apathetic and unresponsive so far regarding this bad port of software. I'm not buying it and if I did I would be pretty upset with your company for the complete waste of money and loss of features. Not to mention that price would motive me to personally pay you a visit demanding my money back.
So please refrain from unintelligent comments they reflect poorly on yourself and the company you represent.
geposted Wed 10 Mar 10 @ 4:05 pm
Nemisius
DJ Cyder - I'd like to keep the posts separate from responses to a cementhead.
I'm testing with the latest trial version from your site, 6.0.6 new years eve edition - 6.0.5 with netsearch enabled i think.My results are as previously posted. I am looking forward to uninstalling it and testing the latest trail version on a clean system as soon as it is posted and will share my results.
IF it works I'll buy an upgrade license and go from there.
The waiting is killing me like it did back in 1999 with megaseg adding video support a decade later and same problems different software. Don't get me wrong it is almost there and I am excited to migrate over to VDJ but it has got to work as well for Video and Karaoke as it does for audio. I was pretty pumped checking out your rig and the evolution of your setup in the forums here and respect that you are also running a mac. Much respect.
I'm testing with the latest trial version from your site, 6.0.6 new years eve edition - 6.0.5 with netsearch enabled i think.My results are as previously posted. I am looking forward to uninstalling it and testing the latest trail version on a clean system as soon as it is posted and will share my results.
IF it works I'll buy an upgrade license and go from there.
The waiting is killing me like it did back in 1999 with megaseg adding video support a decade later and same problems different software. Don't get me wrong it is almost there and I am excited to migrate over to VDJ but it has got to work as well for Video and Karaoke as it does for audio. I was pretty pumped checking out your rig and the evolution of your setup in the forums here and respect that you are also running a mac. Much respect.
geposted Wed 10 Mar 10 @ 4:19 pm
