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Maybe I missed somebody else posting on this, but here they are:



http://www.novationmusic.com/us/products/digital_dj/dicer

They look really cool, and since they're midi I'm sure they can easily be mapped to vdj, but the bit I'm interested in is the 3 different colour LEDs for the different modes and if we can make VDJ do "loop roll".

I'm pretty sure we can't, although there is a user created effect plugin as part of a multi-effects plugin, but that's not very good because when you move the perameter slider right to the end, the sound completely stops. Not good for a live performance.

The default implementation with serato looks ideal, the 5 different buttons give you different sizes of loop roll. I guess they might be half beat, quarter beat, eight of a beat, 16th of a beat, 32nd of a beat.

Any way we can do that, or if it can be added to vdj for a future release? I'm kind of surprised I haven't seen more requests for this effect, it's pretty standard in modern dance music.
 
geposted Mon 19 Jul 10 @ 5:11 pm
I'm gonna assume here that since its a midi controller you can map those buttons to control whatever you want them to with VDJ, anyone care to chime in on this?? Although I'm 100% sure this can be done.

Huey
 
8 buttons, 30 midi controls !!! Interesting !
 
I have one on pre order from the first shipment here - I'll let you know how to map it when it arrives.
 
Def & Mapper coming soon, the units looks very good ad the buttons response are very fast and precise ;)
 
I´m using these babys and its very great ! But I mapped it only with the simple midi wrapper in VDJ.
Don´t using "loop roll" but it´s mapped to 1 Beat, 2 Beat, 4 Beat and button 4 and 5 is for half and double the loop lenght.
On the 3rd level is my effect section ;o)
 
 
Sounds good!

I'll have to look into getting one of these since they're now out and working with vdj.
 
 
Using Andys code this is how I mapped the "green" buttons

1 = isrepeat ? nothing : down ? loop 0.03125 & sampler 8 rec & loop & sampler 8 play & sampler 8 volume 100% & level 0% : level 100% & sampler 8 stop

2 = isrepeat ? nothing : down ? loop 0.0625 & sampler 9 rec & loop & sampler 9 play & sampler 9 volume 100% & level 0% : level 100% & sampler 9 stop

3 = isrepeat ? nothing : down ? loop 0.125 & sampler 10 rec & loop & sampler 10 play & sampler 10 volume 100% & level 0% : level 100% & sampler 10 stop

4 = isrepeat ? nothing : down ? loop 0.25 & sampler 11 rec & loop & sampler 11 play & sampler 11 volume 100% & level 0% : level 100% & sampler 11 stop

5 = isrepeat ? nothing : down ? loop 0.5 & sampler 12 rec & loop & sampler 12 play & sampler 12 volume 100% & level 0% : level 100% & sampler 12 stop

Green LEDs mapped as follows

1 = Sampler 8 play ? on

2 = Sampler 9 play ? on

3 = Sampler 10 play ? on

4 = Sampler 11 play ? on

5 = Sampler 12 play ? on

The LEDs were mapped like this to give me a bit of feedback. Check it out...like I said...works like a champ...Thanks Andy!!

VDJ welcomes the LOOP ROLL Effect!!! (If you spin video be sure to turn off the "faders to black" option).
 
It also works with the SMX1_XF-FX plugin by Deun-Deun, wich I have mapped on Green-Shift like this:

<map value="GREEN_SHIFT_1" action="param_greater 85% ? effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed : effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed & effect slider 1 85%" />

<map value="GREEN_SHIFT_2" action="param_greater 75% ? effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed : effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed & effect slider 1 75%" />

<map value="GREEN_SHIFT_3" action="param_greater 65% ? effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed : effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed & effect slider 1 65%" />

<map value="GREEN_SHIFT_4" action="param_greater 35% ? effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed : effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed & effect slider 1 35%" />

<map value="GREEN_SHIFT_5" action="param_smaller 10% ? effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed : effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed & effect slider 1 10%" />
 
what does SMX1_XF-FX do? What kind of effect i it?
 
The effect is a loop roll effect for vdj, better than the keyboard shortcut I put together since it's a proper effect and doesn't rely on the sampler.
 
now i can get em! ;-D
 
Is there a definition available with working LEDs? The one on the downloads page doesnt seem to do the leds? I'm not overly worried but just I wouldnt need a stop all for the sampler if I could see what samples were enabled from the leds.
 
 
No - Vista. The buttons all work fine and I have remapped them to do things I want - just the leds dont work as expected. For example RED 1 to 3 work fine (on when pressed once, and off when pressed again), but RED4 flashes all the time and RED5 does nothing.
 
ReThink wrote :
Using Andys code this is how I mapped the "green" buttons

1 = isrepeat ? nothing : down ? loop 0.03125 & sampler 8 rec & loop & sampler 8 play & sampler 8 volume 100% & level 0% : level 100% & sampler 8 stop

2 = isrepeat ? nothing : down ? loop 0.0625 & sampler 9 rec & loop & sampler 9 play & sampler 9 volume 100% & level 0% : level 100% & sampler 9 stop

3 = isrepeat ? nothing : down ? loop 0.125 & sampler 10 rec & loop & sampler 10 play & sampler 10 volume 100% & level 0% : level 100% & sampler 10 stop

4 = isrepeat ? nothing : down ? loop 0.25 & sampler 11 rec & loop & sampler 11 play & sampler 11 volume 100% & level 0% : level 100% & sampler 11 stop

5 = isrepeat ? nothing : down ? loop 0.5 & sampler 12 rec & loop & sampler 12 play & sampler 12 volume 100% & level 0% : level 100% & sampler 12 stop

Green LEDs mapped as follows

1 = Sampler 8 play ? on

2 = Sampler 9 play ? on

3 = Sampler 10 play ? on

4 = Sampler 11 play ? on

5 = Sampler 12 play ? on

The LEDs were mapped like this to give me a bit of feedback. Check it out...like I said...works like a champ...Thanks Andy!!

VDJ welcomes the LOOP ROLL Effect!!! (If you spin video be sure to turn off the "faders to black" option).


I am trying to remap the dicer that cioce made. I'm trying to map it exactly the same as it would be with Serato.

I have tried the above code's, and although they do the job, the song can be herd carrying on playing while its being loop rolled.

Has anybody got any other options?
 
Has anyone yet managed to script a code for the CUE's?

For example. You press #1 Red to set your hot cue, and when this button is illuminated, you can press it again and it takes you to your hot cue.

The loop roll would be a cool addition to VDJ (VDJ7 Maybe?)
 
dannyboy2005 wrote :
The loop roll would be a cool addition to VDJ (VDJ7 Maybe?)


Type the script out just using a keyboard FIRST!! remember your using VDJ not Serato..................you seem to always wanna compare the 2, just saying. Try that script I think it'll work for you. You can change the length by changing the "%".

Button 1 "effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed & effect slider 1 85%"

Button 2 "effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed & effect slider 1 75%"

Button 3 "effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed & effect slider 1 65%"

Button 4 "effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed & effect slider 1 35%"

Button 5 "effect "SMX1_XF-FX" active while_pressed & effect slider 1 10%"


Huey

PS. DONT FORGET TO DOWNLOAD THE EFFECT.......................
 
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