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Finally, non-Serato-Traktor controller from Pioneer.
 
geposted Thu 29 Sep 11 @ 10:31 am
http://forums.pioneerdj.com/entries/20483277-pioneer-announces-the-new-ddj-ergo-controller

Introducing a new compact controller with form:
the Pioneer DDJ-ERGO-V for Virtual DJ


Pioneer DJ today announces a new addition to its DJ controller range, the DDJ-ERGO-V. This unique, design-led controller places emphasis on the DJing experience, combined with instinctive operability of the included Virtual DJ Limited Edition software from Atomix Productions.

The DDJ-ERGO-V brings simplicity into both setup and performance, without compromising sound quality or features. Portable dimensions and sharp styling are complemented by a single bus powered cable connection to your laptop.

All major controls and effects are intuitively positioned and ready on the first press of a button. Quick access features include four-deck control, filters, FX, Hot Cues and sample banks with loop sampling too. Features you may not expect at this price point, such as high quality audio circuitry from the Pioneer professional mixer range and dual positioning options, mean the DDJ-ERGO-V will have wide appeal.

The DDJ-ERGO-V comes bundled with Atomix Productions Virtual DJ Limited Edition, which is ready to use straight from the box. Packed with features that even top of the range software can't boast, Virtual DJ LE lets DJs scratch, mix and add modern remix effects to your music and video sets without paying for an upgrade. On top of the four decks with autosync, you get instant access to eight samples, smart loops and much more. Automatic beatgrids, high-detail waveforms and a software interface that matches the controller will make it easy to keep track of the mix.

A new approach to the DDJ-ERGO-V adds a visual dimension to DJing. Pulse Control uses lights to highlight what features are in play, how accurate your beat matching is and which track is loaded.

Redefining standards at a very accessible price point for DJs who like to party. The DDJ-ERGO-V suggested retail price is 499 euros / £429 inclusive of VAT.

The DDJ-ERGO-V. Play Out More.

KEY FEATURES

Bundled with Virtual DJ LE for DJing right out of the box
The DDJ-ERGO comes packaged with Atomix Productions’ Virtual DJ Limited Edition with a Pioneer original GUI and a broad range of performance functions straight from the controller.

The DDJ-ERGO boasts plentiful dedicated knobs and buttons for all your favourite functions, including four-deck mixing, filters, sample decks and loop recording. This makes it possible to access all the most important controls instantly without pressing the Shift button, which is only required for DJs looking for even more advanced performance features and settings. .

Plus the MIDI output makes the DDJ-ERGO compatible with most other DJ software on the market, Traktor users can apply the included TSI settings file to control their favourite software.

NEW! Pulse control adds a visual dimension for precision performance
The newly developed Pulse Control uses light to give a visual representation of pitch, beat, effects and which decks are in use. Built-in LEDs enhance your missing precision and add a new dimension to the art of DJing. The main features of Pulse Control include:

Mix Pulse: A blue LED on the jog wheel shows how close the phase of the mix is during a mix. The bigger the difference in pitch, the weaker the light. The closer the match, the more intense the light shines.
Beat Pulse: LEDs in the channel faders match the beat of the track in play. Plus the strength of the light reflects output levels, so you always know if a track is still in the mix.
Launch Pulse: A red light travels from the Load button towards the Jog Wheel to indicate when a track has been loaded.
FX Pulse: Various light patterns on the Jog Wheel clearly show which FX DJs have applied.


Boasts features from Pioneer’s pro range for top quality sound and ease of operability
The DDJ-ERGO boasts many features that are unusual at this price point, including the 115mm Jog Wheel from the Pioneer pro-DJ range. The controller has also inherited the same layout as the popular DDJ-T1 and DDJ-S1 controllers. Plus the controller employs the same audio circuitry as Pioneer’s professional mixers for the master out terminal, ensuring a clear, powerful reproduction with no sound degradation.

Innovative laptop integration keeps screen in DJs’ line of sight at all times
Pioneer’s laptop dock design enabled DJs to place laptop keyboards underneath the controller to use as little space as possible and keep the screen in view while using the controls. The DDJ-ERGO can also be adapted to sitting or standing positions; simply set the controller flat on any surface by unscrewing the removable legs.

Completely USB-powered for an even easier set up
The DDJ-ERGO is fully operational from a USB bus through your computer, eliminating the need for an external power supply. There LEDs shine bright and the audio output levels are powerful and loud with no compromise.

Unique “Delight” design concept suits every environment
The controller’s eye-catching design features a black top panel and black and silver half-tone Jog Wheel. With it’s rounded edges and white side panel. The DDJ-ERGO looks good in the studio, the booth or the bedroom.

Other features:
Line in and MIC input
The industry’s first lock mechanism, “P-LOCK Fader Cap”, is equipped on the cross-fader and each channel fader to prevent fader caps from slipping during performance.
Built-in audio interface.
 
 
Why does it look cheap and plasticky......the DDJ's are solid with a nice design. This one looks like a cheap toy.....
 
My guess is that it looks like plastic because it is plastic.

And it's certainly not cheap. It's over £400, and this is supposed to be aimed at the domestic/consumer market.

I suppose they'll sell a few if they can get it into Apple stores, to the folks who like paying lots for white curved objects.
 
The same 'plastic' is the same that is used for the other 2 DDJs and in the CDJ's construction. The perceived 'look' is because it is shiny and not dull black or gunmetal.

If you haven't touched it - I wouldn't pass judgement just because of a picture.


xcakid wrote :
Why does it look cheap and plasticky......the DDJ's are solid with a nice design. This one looks like a cheap toy.....


Btw, this is a DDJ as well .... :)

And 'cheap' design is only in the eyes of the beholder ... have met a lot of ugly people that were quite good looking on the inside once you got to know them. And I am sure a lot of people will find the same with this once you actually see it and touch it.
 
I just don't get the design where you slide the laptop keyboard underneath.

It's fine if you're one of those DJs who plays from a set playlist, but for those of us who get a lot of requests we need the keyboard for searching the DB.

To be honest the price shoukd be below the MC-6000. The Denon is rock sold and has metal construction. Pioneer may yet again price themselves out of the market for something that on the face of it looks pretty cheap and nasty :)

Keith
 
Just noticed it does not have XLR or Booth outs.
 
kradcliffe wrote :
I just don't get the design where you slide the laptop keyboard underneath.

To be honest the price shoukd be below the MC-6000. The Denon is rock sold and has metal construction. Pioneer may yet again price themselves out of the market


Keith ... look at it this way ... your laptop stand's base can slide up under the back of the unit. Though I like the whole 'hide your laptop' concept that the DDJs bring to the table. But I don't think anyone is 'seriously' using it that way. That is why I offer the alternative idea which is what I think the majority are doing.

As for the price - when you consider the T1 and S1 at $999USD and $899USD, respectively; to a "recommended" $669USD (conversion from the $429GBP) ... I think it is a great price for an all in one unit. Specially when the MC6000 is at $799USD and the AA-VMS4.1 is going to be $499USD.

So, to be in the 'middle' of the road on pricing for Pioneer quality - looks pretty good verse the usual of way above everyone else. :)
 
xcakid wrote :
Just noticed it does not have XLR or Booth outs.


Neither does the DDJ-T1 and the DDJ-S1 has XLR but no Booth out.
 
That's a fair point Chris, never thought of that .... I use a stand for my laptop so I suppose it would be a space saver.

Will be interesting to see what happens here .... Pioneer do sell good quality gear and it looks like they are trying to compete at the lower end which is a good move.

The booth out feature of the MC-6000 is a godsend, I can send XLR balanced to front of house then use the booth out (which has it's own volume, bass & treble adjustment) to the powered Mackies. Given the Pioneer costs less than the Denon it is natural that it will have less features.

Keith
 
xcakid wrote :
Why does it look cheap and plasticky......the DDJ's are solid with a nice design. This one looks like a cheap toy.....


hhmmmm have you used any Pioneer CDJs? They are all plastic.
 
I like the unit, anybody has a rough U.S. release date?
I like the visual feedback concept, pretty interesting if you ask me. I like the design also, I can imagine seeing these things in a nicely designed lounge, studio or home. Sometimes it hard to incorporate your equipment into the design of a space.
So its not rack mountable, but that's not their target audience. I think it looks solid.
 
cstoll wrote :
xcakid wrote :
Just noticed it does not have XLR or Booth outs.


Neither does the DDJ-T1 and the DDJ-S1 has XLR but no Booth out.



S1 has XLR out, T1 has TRS. Buy yeah no dedicated booth outs. :(

I'll stick to my MC6000. Sturdier build. XLR and Booth outs for club use and rack mountable for mobile use. Pioneer skimped on the design with their controllers IMO.
 
Well for me, until I put my hands on it I do not have a comment.
Its about the feel and placement of the controls.

Now, to put a negative spin on this without having done that is a mistake.

If I had to gather from raw media, i'd say for one its damned pretty for one.
Knowing Pioneer I have to say I expect a higher quality, which again waits for now being a competitively priced device.

Not been a huge fan of "hide the keyboard", but that is not a show stopper and I do like the slope on the positive side over ALL other controllers.
I slope my gear in this manner already, so we think alike there.

The draw towards this is all positive because of the parties involved, popularity rules now.

So lets just see how pleasantly surprised we be can be, the gear coming now is off the hook.
 
This controller is for the ones that have interest in becoming a DJ.. It does what it supposed to do.. Allow you to mix and have the basics. I just saw the Numark N4 and you are better off buying the Numark because it gives you more features for your money.. The pioneer looks nice in design and the Numark looks cheaper.
 
kradcliffe wrote :
I just don't get the design where you slide the laptop keyboard underneath.

It's fine if you're one of those DJs who plays from a set playlist, but for those of us who get a lot of requests we need the keyboard for searching the DB.

To be honest the price shoukd be below the MC-6000. The Denon is rock sold and has metal construction. Pioneer may yet again price themselves out of the market for something that on the face of it looks pretty cheap and nasty :)


Yep.

The video say it all.
 
Caliente123 wrote :
This controller is for the ones that have interest in becoming a DJ.. It does what it supposed to do.. Allow you to mix and have the basics. I just saw the Numark N4 and you are better off buying the Numark because it gives you more features for your money.. The pioneer looks nice in design and the Numark looks cheaper.


I could not 'disagree' with you more Caliente; if we are only talking DJ Controller features between the hardware and software.

However on the hardware exclusive features, I will agree with you there are more capabilities on the Numark N4 - 2 microphones, 2 PHONO/LINE Inputs, Booth OUT.

But hardware to software functionality they are pretty equal - and each has it small plus elements over the other.

And like in prior threads when people ask "What controller should I get?"

-- Don't buy on looks alone, a marketing video, or just a technical sheet. --

Find a way to get your hands on the gear and see it first hand - local music store, fellow DJ, someone or somewhere - but make your judgements on what you see and feel for yourself.
 
@ Cstoll. You are right. Its always best to go to your local store and test out each deck and compare. Its better to put your hands on the deck and see what it feels like.
 

The trouble is these local stores you speak of are often far from local for many of us - I've rarely bought anything with the safety of having tested it first etc.
 
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