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Topic: LOOKING TO TRANSITION, NEED HELP!!!

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I've been a DJ for 5 years now useing a VMS4 And Virtual DJ Pro. I've just recently upgraded to an S2 MK2. I've been only mixing other people's tracks. I want to get into producing my own tracks but i haven't the slightest idea what to look at in a production software. i want a software that can grow into as a producer. show what do you look for in a production software?
 
geposted Thu 23 Jan 14 @ 3:58 pm
There are 2 major ones. Abelton and FL Studio's. I'm not a producer but Avicii uses FL Studio's, Deadmou5 has used many. Try the free vertions and see what you think. I have tried both. I like FL a little better but I'm no good at using either of them.
 
Same here I like FL better than ableton just need some time to play with it and get better so I can produce 30 yrs in and its time to think about the future
 
DJWrenocide wrote :
There are 2 major ones. Abelton and FL Studio's.


There are far more than two.

Ableton Live is the favourite of many electronic music artists, due to it being designed for improv.

Cubase is another big player, been around since the very earliest days of computer sequencing. Now on version 7.5

Reason is popular as an all-in-one solution as it has a lot of "instruments" included, so you can quickly make a racket.

There'll be a new one on the scene in March, called Bitwig. It's kind of styled after Live, but has a few things that Live doesn't.

Acid Pro is good for working with loops and for someone starting out, as it keeps everything nicely in sync and in key.

Pro Tools is the big daddy, used by major studios. You'll often hear famous types saying how they did this or that in Pro Tools.

Cakewalk Sonar has been around a long time too. PreSonus Studio One is another. Logic Pro if you're on a Mac (Apple own Logic now).


Fruity Loops, well IMO it's best not to go there. It tends to be the (cracked) choice of spotty teenagers making Moombahstep in their bedrooms. :-)

 
Depends what you wanna do, Ableton is great for remixing, making beats, etc... But when it comes to recording, mix down & post production Pro Tools or Sonar would be my top picks. Personally if making beats I use Magix and Ableton then record vocals and/ or record an instrument in Sonar then master the track in Sonar as well. Also, CD Architect is good for mastering down your completed album, single or whatever to cd.
 
if your making solid dance tracks and relying on the mouse I think fruity is better. If you want a bit of spontaneity and being able to record live then ableton live is much better, although Image-line have just put their version of clips into beta a few months ago to give a little more creativity when arranging.

For setup time I think fruity is easier to get into as Ableton has a steep learning curve to get started. In fruity you can start within minutes of opening the program for the first time as the basics are pretty self explanitory, but you will have to do multiple tutorials for ableton to even know where to begin. The other major benefit to Ableton is Max4live which puts the power of ableton in programmers reach.

But in the end you can choose either as they will both produce the same results just in different ways. I still prefer fruity though.
 
Saw bitwig is set for release in March didnt get a chance to really look at it yet though
 
I disagree with the comments about Live (Ableton is the company) being hard to learn.

I found it easy enough to use, although I did start using sequencers in the 80s (Steinberg Pro 24).

A friend of mine (a DJ) didn't have any trouble learning Live though, and he'd never used production software before.

If you're starting out, there's going to be a learning curve with all of them. Getting to grips with all the jargon etc.



Best thing is, most of them have trial versions that you can install and try out before deciding where to splash the cash.
 
"live" is rarely used to name the program as it doesn't fit into sentences properly and it's hard to recognize it as a name, "ableton" has always been used for this purpose as it's easily recognisable if you really want to discuss semantics groovin...
 
FL does not sound good at all in my opinion..... Reason is my favorite and Ableton you Dam near need a PhD to use, Lmao!!
 
synthet1c wrote :
"ableton" has always been used for this purpose


By some maybe, incorrectly.

If you look at the Ableton website, you'll see that every mention of it on the site uses the name Live.

Neither Ableton themselves or users on their forum seem to have any problems using it in sentences. It's easy enough if you capitalise it.

"Live has been designed to be used live. When using Live live, the user can use Live to improvise live. Live is easy to use live." :-)
 
Who's arguing?* I made a statement about the name of the software. I wasn't arguing with anyone.

It was you who decided to take issue with my statement. I'm just defending that statement.

I'll happily talk about DAWs all day long, which was what I was doing until you mentioned semantics.



* there's a levelled post, in case anyone wonders what I'm replying to.
 


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