RobGoldberg
Hi folks. I have a new Akai MPD218 midi controller. I bought it to use with SoundSwitch. I have it configured and when I start SoundSwitch it is working as intended.
However, as soon as I start up VDJ, the controller stops doing its intended functions.
I have read other threads and I set the controller to IGNORE. But it's not working. VDJ still stops the controller from working with SoundSwitch.
I am really bummed about this. Anyone have any advice?
Thanks,
Rob
However, as soon as I start up VDJ, the controller stops doing its intended functions.
I have read other threads and I set the controller to IGNORE. But it's not working. VDJ still stops the controller from working with SoundSwitch.
I am really bummed about this. Anyone have any advice?
Thanks,
Rob
geposted Wed 14 Feb 18 @ 5:53 am
klausmogensen
No. I've used a novation launchpad with MyDMX on my laptop, while VDJ was running using another controller. So in general it should be possible
geposted Wed 14 Feb 18 @ 6:03 am
RobGoldberg
I hope others will chime in. I need to resolve this. I have also reached out to the Soundswitch folks to see if they can shed any light on this.
geposted Wed 14 Feb 18 @ 6:43 am
PachN
Really just a guess: Have you tried to set "exclusiveAudioAccess" to No?
geposted Wed 14 Feb 18 @ 9:16 am
djdad
So its not working with your other program, but doesnt work with VDJ either,when u set it to ignore, right ?
Most likely its because VirtualDJ is forcing Programs 1 to 16 to specific settings (Midi/CC notes, Channels, toggle/momentary etc) in order to properly work with all 16 Programs. This means that the Program # you were using to control Soundswitch is probably different now (different notes etc).
Have you kept the MPD Program settings to your computer ? If so, you could re-load it from the MPD Editor application. If not, then you can do the following...
- re-create the Program # (using the Editor) and based on the MIDI specifications that SW is using
- re-program SW with the new Notes/CC
- contact AKAI to get the factory default Programs.(they are not available at any public page unfortunately.)
EDIT. Just found the factory presets at my HD (were sent from AKAI).. https://www.dropbox.com/s/oo8vg9xbmkigd13/AD18-FactoryPresets.rar?dl=0 Try to load them to your unit via the Editor. Editor can be found at the Downloads section of this page http://www.akaipro.com/products/pad-controllers/mpd-218
And just because you may wonder why VDJ had to force some custom Programs, is because the default Programs were outputting all kind of MIDI Notes/CC in various channels and without any specific pattern, so the same MIDI note was offered in 2nd Pad of Program 1 , on 6th Pad of Program 8 etc. So if you were trying to use MPD218 with VDJ, you would end up to assign one Pad of a Program page to do something and you would get the same action on another Program on a different Pad and that would be a mess !
Most likely its because VirtualDJ is forcing Programs 1 to 16 to specific settings (Midi/CC notes, Channels, toggle/momentary etc) in order to properly work with all 16 Programs. This means that the Program # you were using to control Soundswitch is probably different now (different notes etc).
Have you kept the MPD Program settings to your computer ? If so, you could re-load it from the MPD Editor application. If not, then you can do the following...
- re-create the Program # (using the Editor) and based on the MIDI specifications that SW is using
- re-program SW with the new Notes/CC
- contact AKAI to get the factory default Programs.(they are not available at any public page unfortunately.)
EDIT. Just found the factory presets at my HD (were sent from AKAI).. https://www.dropbox.com/s/oo8vg9xbmkigd13/AD18-FactoryPresets.rar?dl=0 Try to load them to your unit via the Editor. Editor can be found at the Downloads section of this page http://www.akaipro.com/products/pad-controllers/mpd-218
And just because you may wonder why VDJ had to force some custom Programs, is because the default Programs were outputting all kind of MIDI Notes/CC in various channels and without any specific pattern, so the same MIDI note was offered in 2nd Pad of Program 1 , on 6th Pad of Program 8 etc. So if you were trying to use MPD218 with VDJ, you would end up to assign one Pad of a Program page to do something and you would get the same action on another Program on a different Pad and that would be a mess !
geposted Wed 14 Feb 18 @ 11:56 am
RobGoldberg
Thank you for the response. I will do some further testing this morning. Just to be clear, I haven't even tried to use the controller with VDJ. I purchased it exclusively to use with SoundSwitch. I do know that when the controller is NOT set to ignore in VDJ, it seems to work with VDJ, although all I tested was triggering a couple of samples and that was completely by accident when I first got the controller and did not know yet about the IGNORE function :-).
geposted Wed 14 Feb 18 @ 4:38 pm
RobGoldberg
After some further testing I have noticed that a few times the controller would stop working in SoundSwitch and when I looked in VDJ the controller was still set to IGNORE on the right but it didn't indicate DISABLED anymore on the left and in fact it was working with VDJ which is never what I want right now. Why would that happen?
geposted Wed 14 Feb 18 @ 6:26 pm
Adion
I believe a bug had been fixed recently with regards to the Ignore function, so you could check if it's the same with the latest early access release here:
http://www.virtualdj.com/download/build.html
http://www.virtualdj.com/download/build.html
geposted Thu 15 Feb 18 @ 9:31 am
slaughsj
Rob, I just bought the MPD218 for use with SS, but I can't even get SS to recognise the device. ItWhen I plug in the controller, SS recognises that it's there, but there's a "0" next to the name where I'm pretty sure there should be a "Port A" or similar. Any ideas?
Also using VDJ set to ignore the Akai - will let you know of my experiences. VDJ immediately mapped my samples to the Akai.
Also using VDJ set to ignore the Akai - will let you know of my experiences. VDJ immediately mapped my samples to the Akai.
geposted Wed 21 Feb 18 @ 9:20 am
RobGoldberg
I found that other software I use would also try to grab the controller. I use Virtual DJ, MyDMX, Pangolin QuickShow, and SS. I had to update the settings in VDJ, MyDMX, and QuickShow before SS could get control of the device. Also, with the MPD218, I could never read from the device to load the presets. I could write to the device but the read from device command would never work. My only advice is that something else running on your machine is grabbing control. I actually updated to the MPD226 and I like it a lot more than the 218. No issues with reading and writing to the device (once I configure all of my other software to leave it alone), faders as well knobs, 4 banks of pads instead of 3, LCD to see all settings right from the device, and only $100 more than the 218.
geposted Wed 21 Feb 18 @ 5:16 pm
TripletDJ
I am having the exact same problem with Virtual DJ, the MPD218 and Soundswitch. I have downloading the presets however this has not helped as the presets all seem to have the pads in momentary mode however I require them in toggle mode to utilise in Soundswitch.
Is there any other ideas to resolve this issue as my MPD218 is inoperable for my intended use.
Is there any other ideas to resolve this issue as my MPD218 is inoperable for my intended use.
geposted Sat 02 Mar 19 @ 2:23 am
Nicotux
Sounds the same as this old bug:
To visualize the problem on windows : install Coolsoft VirtualMidiSynth
run VDJ & enjoy ThreadModal DialogBoxes - up to 16 - at Start then Randomly
Try to "Ignore" VirtualMidi in VDJ or "blacklisted" VDJ in VirtualMidiSynth... does not help
No other software but VDJ can use MIDI unless it takes exclusive access before VDJ was launch
This old bug was hidden/worked around but not fixed in some VDJ 8.1 and reappears a few versions ago
One of the solution would be to do for MIDI devices as for Audio devices : an Advanced config section:
I/O Dev Midi Initial Final
X Deck1 MIDI1 Chan2 ----
X Deck2 MIDI0 Chan1 ----
- Soundpad MIDI1 Chan1 ----
- Master MIDI2 Chan1 Chan4
or something like that, leaving other Midi devices to other apps
-- and don't try to open for input or I/o devices that are output only such as VirtualSynth
Welcome to the new Windows MIDI API issues
To visualize the problem on windows : install Coolsoft VirtualMidiSynth
run VDJ & enjoy ThreadModal DialogBoxes - up to 16 - at Start then Randomly
Try to "Ignore" VirtualMidi in VDJ or "blacklisted" VDJ in VirtualMidiSynth... does not help
No other software but VDJ can use MIDI unless it takes exclusive access before VDJ was launch
This old bug was hidden/worked around but not fixed in some VDJ 8.1 and reappears a few versions ago
One of the solution would be to do for MIDI devices as for Audio devices : an Advanced config section:
I/O Dev Midi Initial Final
X Deck1 MIDI1 Chan2 ----
X Deck2 MIDI0 Chan1 ----
- Soundpad MIDI1 Chan1 ----
- Master MIDI2 Chan1 Chan4
or something like that, leaving other Midi devices to other apps
-- and don't try to open for input or I/o devices that are output only such as VirtualSynth
Welcome to the new Windows MIDI API issues
geposted Sun 03 Mar 19 @ 12:22 am