I have a 'high end graphics card' but since the the latest update by VDJ I the warning message re not using real time stems unless I have a 'high end graphics card'......how to stop this occurring?
geposted Thu 16 Feb 23 @ 12:32 pm
Well you could start by stating which "high end" graphics card you have. It needs to be the right brand and the right model, with a suitable amount of VRAM.
geposted Thu 16 Feb 23 @ 5:41 pm
not entirely sure what 'VRAM' is but the graphics card is an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU
Total available graphics memory 8037 MB
Total available graphics memory 8037 MB
geposted Thu 16 Feb 23 @ 8:20 pm
spamfreedave wrote :
not entirely sure what 'VRAM' is but the graphics card is an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU
Total available graphics memory 8037 MB
Total available graphics memory 8037 MB
you need to verify the amount of VRAM because the 4gb version of that card is not up to the task
geposted Thu 16 Feb 23 @ 9:21 pm
spamfreedave wrote :
not entirely sure what 'VRAM' is but the graphics card is an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU
Total available graphics memory 8037 MB
Total available graphics memory 8037 MB
VRAM stands for "Video Random-Access Memory". It is the DEDICATED RAM built in the GPU. That is what's needed for Stems 2.0. You might think you have a "high end graphic card", which would probably be adequate for a desktop version of it. On the other end, the laptop versions of these same cards have lower power chips (45W instead of 130W for the RTX3050, for obvious power consumption and heat dissipation reasons), but also lower VRAM amounts.
Here is the Task Manager of my Windows 11 box I use with VDJ (sorry, French OS...). In GREEN is the dedicated VRAM of my RTX3060 Ti, in RED is the shared amount of video RAM. Despite the fact my system is reporting 16GB of video RAM, that memory is totally useless for Stems 2.0 computing, only the 8GB dedicated part is important. Hope that helps.
geposted Thu 16 Feb 23 @ 10:19 pm
ok....only just bought the laptop to run the stems facility believing it was up to the job but turns out it only has 4GB of VRAM ....so big expensive oops!!
geposted Thu 16 Feb 23 @ 10:41 pm
thanks for replies
geposted Thu 16 Feb 23 @ 10:46 pm
Yeah the 3050 / 3050ti is a no-go unfortunately. I made exactly the same mistake.
Replaced it with a 3080Ti with 16gb dedicated VRAM and it works well.
Replaced it with a 3080Ti with 16gb dedicated VRAM and it works well.
geposted Thu 16 Feb 23 @ 10:53 pm
so what is the minimum size of dedicated VRAM required to run Stems 2 then?
geposted Fri 17 Feb 23 @ 11:17 am
I'd go for RTX3060 8gb or above to be sure.
Despite repeated requests the FAQ has still not been updated to state that the RTX3050 doesn't work.
https://www.virtualdj.com/forums/249163/VirtualDJ_Technical_Support/VirtualDJ_2023___Stems_2_0_-_FAQ.html
Despite repeated requests the FAQ has still not been updated to state that the RTX3050 doesn't work.
https://www.virtualdj.com/forums/249163/VirtualDJ_Technical_Support/VirtualDJ_2023___Stems_2_0_-_FAQ.html
geposted Fri 17 Feb 23 @ 11:26 am
It's listed in the Minimum Requirements
https://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/Minimum%20system%20requirements.html
https://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/Minimum%20system%20requirements.html
geposted Fri 17 Feb 23 @ 12:01 pm
Fair enough but can't see any reason for this not to be added to the stems FAQ as well in case people read that instead.
geposted Fri 17 Feb 23 @ 12:40 pm
cheers again all......just gotta be on yer toes I guess......the warning note that popped regarding stems 2 before the latest update was not specific at all re requirements nor is the present one come to that...... looks like stems 2 is gonna be beyond my finances for sometime to come if ever sadly
geposted Fri 17 Feb 23 @ 3:26 pm
It's not an ALL or Nothing, with 2.0 stems. (one of the great features of VDJ is flexiblity/configurablity)
You can pre-compute the 2.0 stems with the CPU beforehand for those tracks you need to have the Best Stems separation for, and use the Stems 1.0 separation for all other cases. (VDJ will use the saved 2.0 stems over, creating 1.0 stems, and even if stems is turned off, if the 2.0 stems have been saved)
So if you have a CPU, you can use the 2.0 stems as needed. They are amazing, and you should enjoy the BEST Stem separation that currently exists.
And no need to precompute all 2.0 Stems, for all tracks, if you do not have sufficient Hard Drive space, (though file storage is not costly and easy to increase).
As mentioned only precompute the stems for those tracks that..... having the 2.0 Stems makes sense, else use the 1.0 stems as you have already been enjoying. (setting > StemsRealtimeSeparation > "Reduced quality", to use 1.0 stems )
Summary:
The time to use worlds best Stems separation, only on VDJ, is NOW !
You can pre-compute the 2.0 stems with the CPU beforehand for those tracks you need to have the Best Stems separation for, and use the Stems 1.0 separation for all other cases. (VDJ will use the saved 2.0 stems over, creating 1.0 stems, and even if stems is turned off, if the 2.0 stems have been saved)
So if you have a CPU, you can use the 2.0 stems as needed. They are amazing, and you should enjoy the BEST Stem separation that currently exists.
And no need to precompute all 2.0 Stems, for all tracks, if you do not have sufficient Hard Drive space, (though file storage is not costly and easy to increase).
As mentioned only precompute the stems for those tracks that..... having the 2.0 Stems makes sense, else use the 1.0 stems as you have already been enjoying. (setting > StemsRealtimeSeparation > "Reduced quality", to use 1.0 stems )
Summary:
The time to use worlds best Stems separation, only on VDJ, is NOW !
geposted Fri 17 Feb 23 @ 6:05 pm
Your card is fine and meets the specs, apparently. But since a few weeks, many things seem to go wrong with stems. I had a perfectly smooth running system but since 8 days it is unusable.
geposted Sat 18 Feb 23 @ 8:36 am
Well i guess i bought the wrong Asus laptop with a RTX350ti too. Didn't bought it for VDJ though...
If i look in performances (task manager) the GPU isn't even being used by VDJ, although i configured VDJ to use the Nvidia card (i can see the logo when starting VDJ).
Why can't VDJ make a "force GPU instead of CPU" option in the settings?
Hopefully future updates (VDJ and/or Nvidia) will fix this issue because i bought a home plus license especially for the use of stems 2.0. Yes ofcourse i can use prepare... but this is really a bummer for a laptop with this decent specs.
If i look in performances (task manager) the GPU isn't even being used by VDJ, although i configured VDJ to use the Nvidia card (i can see the logo when starting VDJ).
Why can't VDJ make a "force GPU instead of CPU" option in the settings?
Hopefully future updates (VDJ and/or Nvidia) will fix this issue because i bought a home plus license especially for the use of stems 2.0. Yes ofcourse i can use prepare... but this is really a bummer for a laptop with this decent specs.
geposted Tue 21 Feb 23 @ 8:24 pm
In performance settings, change to
Reduced Quality
Under Automatic, also set to
Prepare with Reduced Quality
Uncheck
Don't Use GPU
My old laptop now working fine with Stems, admittedly the vocal remover isn't perfect and there's a bit of a delay, but in a mix I don't think anyone would notice.
Going to see if I can set switches to kill each instead of using knobs, see if that helps.
Reduced Quality
Under Automatic, also set to
Prepare with Reduced Quality
Uncheck
Don't Use GPU
My old laptop now working fine with Stems, admittedly the vocal remover isn't perfect and there's a bit of a delay, but in a mix I don't think anyone would notice.
Going to see if I can set switches to kill each instead of using knobs, see if that helps.
geposted Tue 28 Mar 23 @ 7:20 pm
Sepatro wrote :
Your card is fine and meets the specs, apparently. But since a few weeks, many things seem to go wrong with stems. I had a perfectly smooth running system but since 8 days it is unusable.
No, this is not true
You writing it again and again doesn't make it any more true
geposted Tue 28 Mar 23 @ 7:27 pm
Right click kills the EQ
geposted Tue 28 Mar 23 @ 7:33 pm
klausmogensen wrote :
No, this is not true
You writing it again and again doesn't make it any more true
Sepatro wrote :
Your card is fine and meets the specs, apparently. But since a few weeks, many things seem to go wrong with stems. I had a perfectly smooth running system but since 8 days it is unusable.
No, this is not true
You writing it again and again doesn't make it any more true
in version 7388 and with the oldest nvidia drivers for the 3050 4gb it worked fine, the updates arrived and it stopped working. no
geposted Tue 28 Mar 23 @ 11:12 pm