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Forum: Wishes and new features

Topic: Master EQ
Hi!

Since Pioneer once again released their flagship mixer "Pioneer V10" with a Master Equalizer and people point out that this is one of the best features on this mixer, I can't resist to emphasize the importance of a simple but effective Master EQ in our beloved and undisputed best DJ software on the market!

It's not that hard to implement and it would elevate the user experience by a lot.

(And no, please don't bring up some master-effect-equalizer-workarounds, these don't work without interfering to much in any kind of the overall workflow.)

Genuinely, please give us this feature!


- Thank you very much in advance!
 

geposted 11 hours ago
Just curious, how does VirtualDJ having a built in EQ applied on master differ from a VST EQ applied on master?
Is it that it is preferred to smartly apply it at a deck level and then shift to master when all mixer channels are dedicated to a specific VirtualDJ instance?

I ask this because implementing it software wise will always have that problem vs it being implemented in the hardware (which can always be applied on master, regardless of what software/source is sending to its channels).
 

Playing devil's advocade here, if it was so important then why don't all DJ mixers/controllers and all DJ software already have a master EQ? It just seems that it's now only become "important" (to some) because Pioneer did it.

Just curious.

Actually now I've checked the V10 I don't see a master EQ. There's an isolator, and a booth EQ but I see no master EQ (unless it's digital in the settings).
 

DJ VinylTouch wrote :
Just curious, how does VirtualDJ having a built in EQ applied on master differ from a VST EQ applied on master?
Is it that it is preferred to smartly apply it at a deck level and then shift to master when all mixer channels are dedicated to a specific VirtualDJ instance?

I ask this because implementing it software wise will always have that problem vs it being implemented in the hardware (which can always be applied on master, regardless of what software/source is sending to its channels).

Clearly, a VST EQ or Virtual DJs 10-Band-EQ are probably a more precise way to adjust the volume of certain frequencies, but it also interferes with several mappings regarding the FX controllability.

- Having a blinking button indicating a running effect while you have no echo (for example) is not what an EQ should bother you with.
- Also there are commands which turn off FX entirely, but you don't want your master eq to shut down every time you de-activate your reverb.
- Not every VST is made for hour-long performances, nor does a weak laptop support this workload.
- And not every user knows how to set up VST or FX-based EQs.

It's just a workflow thing...
Just slap three knobs in the upper right corner and call it a day - nothing more - simplicity is the key.
It's just for rough adjustments, no chirurgical accuracy!!

Code-wise there shouldn't be so much to take care of...
Either it's just a "hidden second eq" after the first one per deck, which it's controlled all at once with the master eq knobs, or you route the sound through some fx-slot which isn't affected by the regular fx controlling commands, just something like a "undercover fx slot" for every deck - that's it.
Easy, but effective.
 

I see what you're saying. I do think though this is better handled by the engineer's EQing later down the audio chain, because now the software now has to fiddle with smart 10-band EQ application per deck on top of EQing you may do with the regular 3 band.

This is pretty similar to the Maximizer discussion btw (ability to tune the sound to a liking independent of regular FX path), and now one has even more rope to potentially cause harm to themselves if uses incorrectly (more knobs to turn - novices will most likely crank all of them in an attempt to sound like other software).