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First I must say that I was an active Djs during 1983 - 1997, now Im a bedroom Dj and ocasionaly play for friends (trainning to play someday on VDJ radio). Well the point is that sometimes when talking to others Djs, they named me as "Old school Dj", also have read on some forums, people refering to Old and New (Nu) School music type,..... What really means Old or New School. Have these Theories:

1.- My Age. Ok, must admit that my hair is leaving me but Im only 37 years old, not so old to be considered an ancient Dj. (...or maybe must retired to some kind of winter camp for veteran Djs).

2.- My equpiment, well I know its quite old, but still a lot of Djs use it (thanks to VDJ and TCVs). still use my original technics 1200, and my old mixer (Numark DM-1850) but now I have a New Behringer DJX-700.

3.- I use my TT in normal position and not as Scratcher Djs use it (90º shifted).

4.- Probably beacuse have a large collection of 80s and 90s Vinyls?.

5.- Still Play with Vinyls!!!


So What realy means Old/New School???...... Is realted to Dj age, or music type, or maybe the kind of equipment used, What is your opinion,

 
geposted Thu 31 Jan 08 @ 1:05 pm
It's not the eqp but if you said that you use sony mini's or something like that then yes, defenitly oldschool. Usually, it's refered to your style of music programing.
 
Ok Fatkatzdj, so if it is music style programing, as you said, wich is the year or era considered to discriminate between Old and New?.....2000 maybe?.
 
Theres no correct answer. It all depends on who you talk to. Some consider anything in the mid 90's and below old school. Even if you playing in a club and your on the second song of a song of the early 2000's and person comes up to you and ask " can you play something up to date or from the past year". This person is thinking your playing old school music because it's out of date to him. He may have just turned 21 in last couple of years so he may not be as mature musically.

So it all depends on the vibe that you give. I think music of some time ago give the image of fun and party while todays music gives a whole different feeling that I haven't been able to put into a catagory yet. It's just different.

I know the younger DJ's here will give a slightly different opinion. Hence, the term old school vs New school...
 
I agree with you, so are there some New School Djs???, plase post your opinions about what means for you the term...Old School.
 
@ undermixx

The term “Old School” can either refer to the era that you were DJing or the way you DJ. I started DJing during the time that you started. Consequently, we would be considered “Old School” DJs from that perspective. However, the fact that we are using VDJ would be considered the “New School” or new way of DJing. Furthermore, new DJs that use the “Old School” method of DJing—turntables and vinyl—would be considered “Old School” DJs. I would also consider DJs that use turntables and time-coded vinyl with Scratch Live as somewhat “Old School” DJs. SL doesn’t have the instant DJ features like VDJ and many other DJ programs. Therefore, you have to be able to mix the “Old School” way....

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here's the diffinition of oldschool in the Urban Dictionary

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=old+school


In a 18/21+ Club 2000 = Old School

So it depends on Style mixing the old with the new and keeping the grove.
Some people of approached because I didn't play the new released REMIX of
a new song... Either way brush your shoulders off and Keep Spinning


Thanks,
DJ SMG

 
We will all be "Old School" in a hundred years!
 
I think it's simply put

Old school = how they used to do it

New school = how they do it now
 
Thanks HazOrd for the link.

I like the definition that appear there..." Anything that is from an earlier era and looked upon with high regard or respect". that definition changes my perception when sombody refers as Old School Djs, I use to considered as they were trying to say....Hey you are an Obsolete Dj. I prefered to consider it as recognition and respects of the basics mixing technics, when you have only your ears as an input for beatmatching.

Also considering DubleO excelent explanation, we have to invent a new definition for Djs that combine old equip with new technologies like VDJ or SSL and play original versions with remix also, do old soft large mixes (like 12" era) combined with chops and effects fade out.

Someone must open a poll to put a name to this new type of Djing.

Thanks All for the coments.
 
I've always considered an Old School DJ to be someone that plays dance/clubbing/underground hits from the previous generation(s). So in other words an Old School DJ in ten years would be playing alot of what a new School DJ is playing today. (If they are considered big hits)

That was just my perception anyway.
 
Old school : 1 mixer + 2 turntables
New School : 1 mixer & new Technologies
 
i would place the argument towards mindset and sometimes mode of music, not how its done. otherwise the oldschool/newschool argument is pretty insulting. just cuz a dj puts his turntables normal doesnt make it oldschool, it means he isnt a turntablist. you cant say all house djs are oldschool.

oldschool hiphop is stuff in the late 80s early 90s like DJ Red Alert, Grand Master Flash. Oldschool house is stuff like Robert Owens and early Carl Craig. oldschool jazz is Lindy Hop and stuff in the 40s, etc etc.

In essence its a pretty lame classification because it implies that new school disregards musical history and anything that isnt from today. but anyone who actually knows a thing or two about music knows that all music is a progression that followed from years ago and that no idea is truly original, but a rehashing of ideas from the time and previously.

its like your teenage daughter telling you aint cool because you listen to stuff from 20 years ago. but similarly you _are_ oldschool if you equally refuse to relate to new things and say 'music sucks now, its not like when i was a kid' which is just and ignorant.

 
everything about your post is why your old school
37
vinyl
90s stuff etc....
 
I would definitely put myself in the 'old school' corner. I started DJing way back when we would use dual turntables which came without housing and you would simply drop them into a DJ booth you build yourself, cut a hole and put them in it (any1 here remember those)?

Old school DJs will remember three typre of TT stylus: ceramic (kinda like using a chisel really ;) ), 'moving magnet' (what we use today) and moving coil (way better but more fragile)..

Old School DJs remember the SL1000mkII where you would buy the tonearm separately..

Old school Djs probably started using mixers without tone control and channel fader which moved like a brick

And I could go on..

;)
 
Yes Paulheu, Im definitely Old School,.....I can remember my first belt drive turntables; doing home made slip mats with buttered paper; my first mixer a Numark dm-1250 with analog VU meters no eq, tone control, or leds. If I go back, I can remember starting with cassettes Decks, how many of you remember recording from radiostations using PLAY + REC buttons on those old cassetes recorders....Wow how things changed.
 
yeah, back then (around 1976-77) I would sit in front of the radio every sunday when the top40 was on.. they did not play all tracks, but did play the ones they did from start to finish.. Perfect..;^)

I could not afford buying records and equipment until a few years later so at the time I used cassette tapes.., two (cheap) decks and a tube receiver which was way overdriven with too much small speakers.. But tubes handle that easy as some of you know..
 
yes, I remember that as a starting Dj, we used to use home receivers instead of power amps, and some of them use vacumm tubes, they produce a lot of heat so we must put a large fan for refrigerating it. Sometime ago I heard that a electronica manufacturer (not remember the brand,probably Cerwing Wega), has a hybrid home amp using tubes due to their high sound quality.

Those days where the most important light effect (if it can be considered as it) was the mirror ball, iluminated with some PAR 36.
 
Yeah, back then we used to build light boxes which used a fluorescent tube starter to make the light flicker.. :)

I remember the lists I kept of which track started at which count on the cassette players counter.. and you would want to kill the person funny enough to reset it while winding the tape..;)
 
UUUUUUUUUhhhhhhhh,.........reseting the cassette counter, that was the mess, sepcialy if you have 90 minutes cassettes (never again record your music on 90 min, always do it on 30 or 60, for that reason)....the most funny thing was when you want a song that was at the end of the tape, and you dont have enough time, you start hurring the deck as it was a horse race......funny days.
 
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