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Topic: Building pc, any advice?

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Mother board: P7N SLI Platinum 750i SLI ATX

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad?

Memory: 3-4Gb?

Internal Hard drive: 500Gb-1Tb

Video card: ?

Sound card: ?

Operating System: XP pro or Vista?

Optical drive:CD DVD?

Power Supplies: ?

Fans Cooling: CNPS9700 LED Universal CPU Cooler?

Bit: 32bit

Any suggestions, tips, advice. I have never built a pc, hope it all goes right. Can anyone help me with the ? marks, or change parts, and choose.
 
geposted Mon 21 Jul 08 @ 10:25 am
If you're going for an SLI motherboard an Nvidia card would be good to go with. The 8600 GT and above are good cards, it depends on your budget, just make sure the graphics card has GDDR3 memory; if you have the choice between a card with 512MB RAM with GDDR2 memory or 256MB RAM with GDDR3 memory, get the GDDR3 one! If you plan to only ever put one graphics card in this machine ATI make equally good midrange cards such as the HD3650. ATI cards have been reported to work better with Vista and Virtual DJ for some users. (ATI's SLI technology is called Crossfire).

Personally I would go for the Quad Core Processor as it's more futureproofed, although depending on your needs (i.e. because not every application can utilize 4 cores yet), a cheaper Dual Core processor with higher clocks may be faster. If you're dealing with a lot of media processing or are a heavy multitasker Quad Core is ideal.

If you get 4GB of memory, you will only be able to use it all on a 64-bit operating system, whether you use Windows, Linux or Unix. However, even with a 32 bit operating system, if you use 4 x 1GB sticks of memory, they will all run in dual channel giving you a slight performance boost over 3 x 1GB sticks, even though the addressable memory would really be about 3.3 GB vs 3GB. The way to decide what is right for you is on cost, or whether you think you may use a 64-bit operating system in the future, e.g. you may consider dualbooting Linux. Just make sure that for best performance, you do not mix memory. It's best to buy matched pairs which will be from the same range of a manufacturer and all sticks will have the same speed and timings. Kingston make good memory, but there is plenty of choice such as OCZ and Corsair just to name a few.

For your optical drive you will want at least a SATA DVD-Rewriter. CD drives aren't that much cheaper. I wouldn't get a Blu-Ray writer yet until the price comes down a bit and the technology stabilises.

Absolutely do not get a cheap power supply. If you decide you're going to have an SLI setup anywhere in the future, your power supply must be at least 700 Watts and ideally have 2 PCI-E power connectors on it. If one graphics card is enough for your setup then get at least a 400 Watt power supply with at least 1 PCI-E power connector. The best power supplies will carry the tag 80+ (80 plus) which means they are at least 80% efficient. By getting a cheap power supply you are more likely to damage more equipment in the event of a power supply failure which may also be increased.

The retail Intel Core Duo products come with a sufficient heatsink/fan combination but if you want to go for a more stylish one, quieter or maybe more powerful because you'll be overclocking then that's fine. Do be sure to fit your case with as many fans as it will allow. The larger the fan the quieter it is. A lot of cases will allow for at least 2 fans (one to suck air in and one to push air out), maybe even 3 (to help cool your harddrives) or possibly more! The best cooled cases will usually allow for a 120mm fan to be fitted in the front and back, and will also have a tunnel which sits above the CPU fan to help push even more air out.
 

Just as my very own personal suggestions:
1) If you gonna go for Intel processors, then go for an Intel Motherboard, same brand, designed to get the highest performance. There are a lot of Intel's motherboards, get the one that covers you needs.

2) There is no software yet that uses all the technology of the Quad cores processors, especially VDJ. VDJ works fine even with old P4 processors.

3) Get all the Ram you can, it makes faster your applications. But remember that with 32 bit windows it not recognize more than 3.2 gb.

4) Its your choice, but I prefer 2 hd, one small for system (Windows, and VDJ) and one big for media. But if money is not a problem get 4 of the same size, and do an array level 5, it will be faster as hell.

5) Video Card, depends on what operating system you will use. If you go for XP, then get a DX9 card, if you like NVidia, the 7000 series are Ok, I highly recommend you the 7600GT with DDR3. If you go for ATI any X series are fine. If you go for Vista, then, you must get an DX10 card, Nvidia 8000 series and ATI HD series are fine.

6) Sound card... I use the one with my Denon HC.4500, but if you gonna use another controller with lack of sound card, then get the Audio 8 DJ from Native Instruments. I have never read a bad comment of it.

7) Operating system... Depends on your video card. But as I see you want get multiple cores processor, then I highly recommend you a 64 bit operating system (I use XP 64), but beware that not all hardware support a 64 bit OS.

8) CD rom? Any branded dvd burner will cover all your needs.

9) Coolers? The one that came with the CPU and the one that the case will have will be enough.

Please note that there are endless parts to build a PC, pick the ones that cover your needs, not necessarily the most expensive (remember that computer prices drops hardly each day, and new hardware arrives and it is and endless story).

If you are building a PC ONLY_ for VDJ, then I highly recommend you a very basic computer, 2 ghz core 2 duo, 1 gb ram, 1 sata 500gb hd, 1 PCIe16X Nvidia 7600GT... you can get this one for less than 600 dlls, and will work flawless with VDJ IF you use only VDJ. If you use Antivirus, web browsing, and other applications, it will needs lot of resources that will be reflected in VDJ.


Just my 2 cents.
 
Also keep it mind that alot of DJ hardware drivers are still incompatible with 64 bit OS, shame too because it seems 64 bit systems are becoming a standard for store bought PC's;^]
 
"If you are building a PC ONLY_ for VDJ, then I highly recommend you a very basic computer, 2 ghz core 2 duo, 1 gb ram, 1 sata 500gb hd, 1 PCIe16X Nvidia 7600GT... you can get this one for less than 600 dlls, and will work flawless with VDJ IF you use only VDJ. If you use Antivirus, web browsing, and other applications, it will needs lot of resources that will be reflected in VDJ."

Okay lets keep it simple then, I am going to just be using virtual dj, and this is my first built. So lets restart.

Mother board: Intel DG33BUC 775 mATX Motherboard

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200

Memory: 3Gb

Internal Hard drive: 500Gb

Video card: e-GeForce 7600 GT 256MB GDDR3 PCIe Graphics Card?

Sound card: Hercules MK2 for now

Operating System: XP Pro

Optical drive:CD DVD simple

Power Supplies: ?

Fans Cooling: CNPS9700 LED Universal CPU Cooler?

Bit: 32bit

so? what power supply should I buy
 
This is a good one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001

This is a very good PSU and will suit your power needs just fine. And as was mentioned above, YOU DO NOT WANT TO PURCHASE A CHEAP POWER SUPPLY. I can count numerous occasions where crappy PSU's have caused other hardware failure.

And also as was mentioned above you want a good case with good cooling properties. In fact, Antec has a couple of really good PSU+Case combos.
Check out this review:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/antec-case-roundup.html

The Sonata Plus with the Antec NeoPower 550 is the best combo deal. The Antec Nine Hundred is the best case.



 
I'm going to buy a rackmount case for the pc. Any suggestions?
 


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