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Forum: Wishes and new features

Topic: Do not play flag for twitch
Twitch has the DJ program, https://www.twitch.tv/dj-program - to get in, you just have to agree to avoid their restricted tracks, and their list of restricted tracks is pretty small, but to be sure and double check track by track can be tedious, it would be nice to have a feature that turns on when you go into broadcast mode on twitch the database links up with VDJ playlist and you can see inside the VDJ playlists what tracks are restricted on twitch. - like the track turns red or something - Would save so much time and anxiety about getting copyright strikes by accident.
 
geposted Wed 14 Aug 24 @ 4:28 pm
You could create a filter folder based on the restricted list, using terms like 'artist is not Madonna' and 'artist is not Prince' (etc)...

They do say though, that the list is "not a definitive resource" and that you should be checking for artists that you ARE permitted to play (but that list is not visible, only searchable).

They also say that if you play anything that's either restricted OR not in the "allowed" list then it's at your own risk - so before we perform, we're supposed to search online in advance, track by track, to see if all the artists we want to play are allowed???

That's highly impractical and unlikely to happen. DJs like to freestyle. I know that already some Twitch DJs have deliberately played from the restricted list.

I think these lists are probably more of a contractual obligation thing.
 
geposted Wed 14 Aug 24 @ 4:57 pm
Good points and thanks for the great tip for search feature - I'm still learning the finer points of VDJ.

I'm sure the variables are less likely since the bots would probably just search for whats on their database, I would imagine it would be more dangerous for a popular / influencer type dj that has a large audience and major labels / lawyers watching and ready to file a claim for PR reasons - that's the real variable that makes it risky beyond the "contractual" bot, I think.

edit - besides I was also thinking this could make VDJ the go to software for the twitch-dj program which would be nice. - my friend uses another software, and just hooking up to twitch to stream was a bit of convoluted process....vdj is in a unique spot here both in easy hook up and the visual options.
 
geposted Wed 14 Aug 24 @ 5:10 pm
Yes it's just so convenient to stream directly via VDJ, but we do unfortunately lose out on the overlays that are used so often with OBS.

Twitch is kind of the opposite to YouTube in that it's based around live streams rather than stored videos, and in the four or so years I've been using it, I've never heard of a DJ's live stream being muted or disconnected.

The copyright strikes have only come from stored video (VODs) which are not permitted in the DJ category anyway.

We will see what happens as we go forward, but I don't think there's much to worry about.
 
geposted Wed 14 Aug 24 @ 5:35 pm
ya may not lose out much on the overlays as much as you think though, not everyone wants to pretend like they are dj'ng at a festival jumping around in their bedrooms turning their knobs aggressively for 4 hours lol, I'm also a graphic artist / animator, so I'm having fun showing animations, renders, and gen ai images for my stream, with the text feature going across advertising my merch shop and website and random gibberish lol, i'm thinking more an mtv like approach than the tiesto live thing. I'm happy to show the vdj logo in my screen, makes me feel like i'm a part of something tbh lol. "The VDJ Army" has a nice ring to it. :)
 
geposted Wed 14 Aug 24 @ 6:05 pm
Anirhythm wrote :
turning their knobs aggressively


LOL I saw one DJ doing exactly that yesterday!

If she wasn't doing the big gestures with her arms then she was typing on her keyboard. I swear she was spending half the time sticking her elbows out and the other half typing.
 
geposted Wed 14 Aug 24 @ 6:21 pm
I think you should just play like before, and see what happens. Nobody is going to check their entire track list against their lists

I never use OBS when streaming. I find that VDJ video streaming with all it's features can do all I need regarding graphics and overlays
Here is an example:
 
geposted Thu 15 Aug 24 @ 1:32 am
This is interesting...

Yesterday I played some vinyl for three hours (live stream) and included some tracks that were on the restricted list. It wasn't a deliberate thing, but the subject did come up in the chat.

This morning I received an email:
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Restricted Track Detected In A Stream

In the past 24 hours, your account was detected as having included one or more Restricted Tracks in your streams, including:

[names of three restricted tracks listed here]

The Twitch DJ Program does not allow you to stream tracks which are flagged in the Twitch DJ Music Catalog as Restricted.

While we may send warning emails if these tracks are performed, DJs who are opted into the program are not at risk of strikes or enforcement at this time as we introduce and refine the program. We will be communicating with you throughout the process so you know what to expect moving forward, including when strikes and enforcement will be introduced. You can look up these tracks in the catalog, and also use the Restricted Artist list as an additional resource.

This is not a DMCA notification, but rather a warning issued pursuant to a contract between Twitch and one or more music rights holders. As a reminder, you should not include unauthorized copyrighted material (including music) in content you share on your channel unless you have the rights or authority to do so. If you do, you may also be subject to DMCA notices from rights holders and their agents.

Please review the DJ Program Terms. We also encourage you to review our Music Guidelines, Terms of Service and DMCA Guidelines for more information.
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geposted Sun 22 Sep 24 @ 8:34 am
I got it too. You now have to check what you are playing against the list, similar to youtube (it's easily accessible from the creator dashboard), and you can just keep a browser tab with it up to check if you are doing more impromtu set.

The program is really for them to get their licencing issue in check so they don't have to pay/pay as little of the costs themselves (pass the buck). To me, I don't readily see the gains (only losses, e.g. No VOD/clips, they tale more on the revenue cut compared to other categories), but that's just me.
 
geposted Sun 22 Sep 24 @ 1:37 pm
It's quite a small list really, with only a few major artists on it. There's plenty of other material to play.
 
geposted Sun 22 Sep 24 @ 1:42 pm
Yep the list is pretty much easy to get by. But I do think we lost in transition, especialy with other things in consideration (another e.g., technically Videos, Edits and pre-releases aren't allowed without consent too).
 
geposted Sun 22 Sep 24 @ 2:12 pm