Okay , don't know if anyone has written this , but I really suggest more keybord shortcuts , prefeably customizable.
exempel if you wanna gain and lower the volume of each deck instead of crossfading. (I for one think the pressision is better that way.
And it would make the dj:in much more fun =)
second , how about some sort of system that creats a loop
from the upcoming beat to the next (you are suppose to choose this) 8,16,32 or 64 beats...I recon since you just play a loop it won't take as much room as a sampler. After that you can punch out the song or keep it looping while you mix. Don't know if you guys know what I'm talking about but I think it would make the program sooo much better.
exempel if you wanna gain and lower the volume of each deck instead of crossfading. (I for one think the pressision is better that way.
And it would make the dj:in much more fun =)
second , how about some sort of system that creats a loop
from the upcoming beat to the next (you are suppose to choose this) 8,16,32 or 64 beats...I recon since you just play a loop it won't take as much room as a sampler. After that you can punch out the song or keep it looping while you mix. Don't know if you guys know what I'm talking about but I think it would make the program sooo much better.
geposted Wed 11 Apr 01 @ 12:01 pm
i think that a simple loops feature would be very useful. I was thinking simpler, like pressing 'L' to return back to the cue point at any time. This would allow for more on the fly looping and could have many dynamic possibilities. Also, implement a second button to assign an 'end loop' and use the cue as the 'begin loop' so a loop of sound could play while working the other deck..
~BBT
~BBT
geposted Wed 11 Apr 01 @ 10:39 pm
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PLEASE READ OLD MESSAGES BEFORE POST A *NEW* !
Ok, for the (hmmmm.... 523?) 500 times again:
We are working on the sampler and the loop but you can already use the L key!
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The shortcuts are now customizabl! please wait next version.
Ok, for the (hmmmm.... 523?) 500 times again:
We are working on the sampler and the loop but you can already use the L key!
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The shortcuts are now customizabl! please wait next version.
geposted Thu 12 Apr 01 @ 1:19 am
Bonjour!
Jaime a pell Dj §aRgE, Im a Student at Monash University (Melbourne, Australia) studying Software Engineering (first year). One of my hobbies is Djin, and this piece of software has interested me greatly!!
I agree with more Keybord shortcuts totally!!( check up - Topic : Working with your hands !!" The thing is, in any computer simulation, the idea is to make it feel as real as possible to the "real" thing, without all the hardships and costs one would have to face with the "real" thing. Ie, in any car racing simulation, (take a Ferrari for example), the software should make it "feel" like your in a Ferrari by making the engine sound the same, the speed be the same, etc etc, and the DAMN DASH BORED SHOULD LOOK LIKE A FERRARI DASHBORD!!! I mean, if we all had money to buy a flashy hot red Ferrari, who would want a crappy piece of software right??
Same thing with Dj'ing. If we all could get our hands on a turntable, mixer, and lighting, then the heck with bits n bytes!
My freinds and I were very dissapointed to see that, well atomix is such a damn good program, but it has a very limited amount of possibility, as far as Dj'ing goes.
Atomix is probably the best djing software Ive seen. However, it is lacking alot of good and obvious and mostly fundementally important things that move it away from proper DJing. For example, the crossfader is mad n all, But i think it would have been better if the 2 volume controls were assigned with 2 keys on the keyboard each, one for volume up and one for down.(Ex, (W,Z) for deck 1 and (R,C)for deck 2) So it would be like a real mixer.
Secondly, it needs some EFFECTS!!!! the software is lacking in this field baaaad!!! Voice removal would be nice :)
ANDDD, I have not yet seen a peice of software that does good scratching effects YET!!! so work on dat!!
none of them scratch properly. On most of them, i can make a better scratching sound itching my arse than the shitty mouse sqeak they give out!!
Thirdly, it needs more than one que point!!!!!!
its a pain in the arse to remember all the different parts of a song and to shuffle thru and find them!
What is good i think is if there were about 5 - 10 que points each assigned to a number on the keyboard ie, 1 - 0. that way it would be easier to jump to.
Forthly, Ok i havent really checked this out properly, but the quality of the recored 'mix' is prety crappy. there should be a option where the user has control over the quailty of the output and what the otuput should be. ie Mp3, Wav, Wma. what ever.
Fifthly, Where the hell is the Equalisation??
There should also be seperate Treble,Mid and Bass alternators.
Sixthly, Its a bit way too easy to do, it gets borring, and its not very impressive to show a freind when you say " hey im a dj" cuz any bet he will be as good first go as me on atomix.
make it more realistic!! Adding those keyboard keys is a damn good start i think!!
Also, has anyone noticed how calculating the BMP on HIP HOP/Rap and RnB is damn impossible???
I know this is normal, because there is no set BMP on these Genres. But one way of going about this is having a manual BMP calculator, where the user can "Tap" the beats on the space bar( while the song is playing), and for every beat "tapped" a vertical line should appear on the WAVE display, till the compleation of the song. On compleation of the full length of the song, these lines should show up as the "peaks" of beats. and any other song should be matched to these lines and the peaks or other lines.
Once these lines are "tapped" out onto the wave display of the song, the program should let the user edit the lines just in case the lines were mistapped. According to these "lines" the BMP should be calculated. using averaging mathematical techniques.
By the way, this whole section should be in a seperate module of the software. Also, any changes and any "Tapped" beats should be saved. so the user doesnt have to "tap" everytime he opens the program.
I know this can be very tedious, but mark my words, the mix would sound fabulous!!! at the moment, Atomix is a inadequate program to mix Hip Hop/Rap and RnB.
Ive seen programs that actually have this sort of Manual beat matching (like MixVibes Pro) , but instead of doing that vertical lines thingy i just pulled out of my arse, what they do is, they calculate the average after 30 taps. this is stupid because in many songs, the drums/beats start after about 10 sec into the song. The first 10 sec is just music or talking. so it will "map" the beats onto wrong places.
What u can do is do something in between. Ask the user if he/she wants to "Auto Map". if so, then make the user tap the first 10 taps or so, and using this as a image of the whole song, repeat it throughout the song, BUT MAKE IT START FROM WHERE THE USER STARTED FROM! so the actual beats match the mapped lines. then tell the user to edit the last beats as the ending of the song could just be music or just instruments.
ANOTHER USER POSTED THIS HERE:
"I, as many of you it seems, like to mix different kinds of music. Personally I try to stick with Trance and Mix is a bit of D&B and some funk. But I also like Triphop and Downbeat. Unfortunately these different music styles feature 4/4 or 2/4 beats and snare, kick, or deep bass beats but usually one or the other (or the other ;)) I would like to see 2 switches on each turntable. One for 2/4 or 4/4 beat detection and the other for snare or kick or deep bass. This would allow for beat detection and proper BPM in many different types of music. I would assume that if a program could detect 4/4 kick as well as this does, only a slight adjustment would be necessary to detect 4/4 snare or 2/4 bass or 2/4 kick, etc. "
This is also good too.
If i can think of other things ill post them up here, but if your already Excelent program had these functions i would pay as much as i would pay for a real Dj kit for it!!!!
it would make it the ultimate djing software!!!
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! U GUYS ARE DOING GREAT!!
Orivor! ( is dat how u spell it?)
Dj §aRgE.
Suranga@tellmeimcute.com (just in case u want to contact me) !! :)
Jaime a pell Dj §aRgE, Im a Student at Monash University (Melbourne, Australia) studying Software Engineering (first year). One of my hobbies is Djin, and this piece of software has interested me greatly!!
I agree with more Keybord shortcuts totally!!( check up - Topic : Working with your hands !!" The thing is, in any computer simulation, the idea is to make it feel as real as possible to the "real" thing, without all the hardships and costs one would have to face with the "real" thing. Ie, in any car racing simulation, (take a Ferrari for example), the software should make it "feel" like your in a Ferrari by making the engine sound the same, the speed be the same, etc etc, and the DAMN DASH BORED SHOULD LOOK LIKE A FERRARI DASHBORD!!! I mean, if we all had money to buy a flashy hot red Ferrari, who would want a crappy piece of software right??
Same thing with Dj'ing. If we all could get our hands on a turntable, mixer, and lighting, then the heck with bits n bytes!
My freinds and I were very dissapointed to see that, well atomix is such a damn good program, but it has a very limited amount of possibility, as far as Dj'ing goes.
Atomix is probably the best djing software Ive seen. However, it is lacking alot of good and obvious and mostly fundementally important things that move it away from proper DJing. For example, the crossfader is mad n all, But i think it would have been better if the 2 volume controls were assigned with 2 keys on the keyboard each, one for volume up and one for down.(Ex, (W,Z) for deck 1 and (R,C)for deck 2) So it would be like a real mixer.
Secondly, it needs some EFFECTS!!!! the software is lacking in this field baaaad!!! Voice removal would be nice :)
ANDDD, I have not yet seen a peice of software that does good scratching effects YET!!! so work on dat!!
none of them scratch properly. On most of them, i can make a better scratching sound itching my arse than the shitty mouse sqeak they give out!!
Thirdly, it needs more than one que point!!!!!!
its a pain in the arse to remember all the different parts of a song and to shuffle thru and find them!
What is good i think is if there were about 5 - 10 que points each assigned to a number on the keyboard ie, 1 - 0. that way it would be easier to jump to.
Forthly, Ok i havent really checked this out properly, but the quality of the recored 'mix' is prety crappy. there should be a option where the user has control over the quailty of the output and what the otuput should be. ie Mp3, Wav, Wma. what ever.
Fifthly, Where the hell is the Equalisation??
There should also be seperate Treble,Mid and Bass alternators.
Sixthly, Its a bit way too easy to do, it gets borring, and its not very impressive to show a freind when you say " hey im a dj" cuz any bet he will be as good first go as me on atomix.
make it more realistic!! Adding those keyboard keys is a damn good start i think!!
Also, has anyone noticed how calculating the BMP on HIP HOP/Rap and RnB is damn impossible???
I know this is normal, because there is no set BMP on these Genres. But one way of going about this is having a manual BMP calculator, where the user can "Tap" the beats on the space bar( while the song is playing), and for every beat "tapped" a vertical line should appear on the WAVE display, till the compleation of the song. On compleation of the full length of the song, these lines should show up as the "peaks" of beats. and any other song should be matched to these lines and the peaks or other lines.
Once these lines are "tapped" out onto the wave display of the song, the program should let the user edit the lines just in case the lines were mistapped. According to these "lines" the BMP should be calculated. using averaging mathematical techniques.
By the way, this whole section should be in a seperate module of the software. Also, any changes and any "Tapped" beats should be saved. so the user doesnt have to "tap" everytime he opens the program.
I know this can be very tedious, but mark my words, the mix would sound fabulous!!! at the moment, Atomix is a inadequate program to mix Hip Hop/Rap and RnB.
Ive seen programs that actually have this sort of Manual beat matching (like MixVibes Pro) , but instead of doing that vertical lines thingy i just pulled out of my arse, what they do is, they calculate the average after 30 taps. this is stupid because in many songs, the drums/beats start after about 10 sec into the song. The first 10 sec is just music or talking. so it will "map" the beats onto wrong places.
What u can do is do something in between. Ask the user if he/she wants to "Auto Map". if so, then make the user tap the first 10 taps or so, and using this as a image of the whole song, repeat it throughout the song, BUT MAKE IT START FROM WHERE THE USER STARTED FROM! so the actual beats match the mapped lines. then tell the user to edit the last beats as the ending of the song could just be music or just instruments.
ANOTHER USER POSTED THIS HERE:
"I, as many of you it seems, like to mix different kinds of music. Personally I try to stick with Trance and Mix is a bit of D&B and some funk. But I also like Triphop and Downbeat. Unfortunately these different music styles feature 4/4 or 2/4 beats and snare, kick, or deep bass beats but usually one or the other (or the other ;)) I would like to see 2 switches on each turntable. One for 2/4 or 4/4 beat detection and the other for snare or kick or deep bass. This would allow for beat detection and proper BPM in many different types of music. I would assume that if a program could detect 4/4 kick as well as this does, only a slight adjustment would be necessary to detect 4/4 snare or 2/4 bass or 2/4 kick, etc. "
This is also good too.
If i can think of other things ill post them up here, but if your already Excelent program had these functions i would pay as much as i would pay for a real Dj kit for it!!!!
it would make it the ultimate djing software!!!
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! U GUYS ARE DOING GREAT!!
Orivor! ( is dat how u spell it?)
Dj §aRgE.
Suranga@tellmeimcute.com (just in case u want to contact me) !! :)
geposted Thu 12 Apr 01 @ 6:19 pm
Have you ever thought of getting a proper mixer? Sound cards never do the job as well as a mixer, plus the hands on crossfading etc makes like a LOT easier. You can get a cheap mixer (2 channel) for under £50
DJ Dez
PS I have a Numark DM 1002 which has been great and is very versatile, but it is a little more pricy.
DJ Dez
PS I have a Numark DM 1002 which has been great and is very versatile, but it is a little more pricy.
geposted Fri 13 Apr 01 @ 2:26 am