dherm1611
There's a good chance that Mac VDJ and OS X v.10.5 Leopard will be released around the same time. Will VDJ be compatible with Leopard right away or will we have to wait for a driver update?
geposted Sat 10 Mar 07 @ 10:57 pm
sbangs
it should work fine. :) if apple meets its sale pitch all the drivers and devices should be recognised in leopard.
geposted Sat 10 Mar 07 @ 11:32 pm
ConQuest
I hope so as well.
However I do know that Leopard is very significant upgrade with many changes to Core audio and Quartz Extreme, so I'll keep my fingers crossed.
It took Stanton/Native Instrument's Final Scratch product almost a year to come out with a 10.3 Panther update for FS from the 10.2 Jaguar compatabile version, much tho the anger of many of it's users.
THAT in large part is why I dumped FS, because of NI's incompetence and prolonged lies, but I don't view Atomix the same way and am glad to have come across VirtualDJ. =)
- VT ConQuest
(Visual Turntablist)
However I do know that Leopard is very significant upgrade with many changes to Core audio and Quartz Extreme, so I'll keep my fingers crossed.
It took Stanton/Native Instrument's Final Scratch product almost a year to come out with a 10.3 Panther update for FS from the 10.2 Jaguar compatabile version, much tho the anger of many of it's users.
THAT in large part is why I dumped FS, because of NI's incompetence and prolonged lies, but I don't view Atomix the same way and am glad to have come across VirtualDJ. =)
- VT ConQuest
(Visual Turntablist)
geposted Sun 11 Mar 07 @ 2:55 am
SpeedDemond29
ITS A MAC ! OF COURSE ITLL WORK!
Go to http://www.apple.com and watch that commercial when the PC is going in to surgery for upgrades ... that commercial is HALARIOUS!
GO MAC!
Come ON VDJ! Get that Mac Version out sooN!! cant wait!
(and incase anyone is wondering, some things leaked out before in one of my forums ... VDJ PRO for MAC IS COMING VERY SOON! =)
(im learning to be patient .. lol i love VDJ so it's hard!)
Go to http://www.apple.com and watch that commercial when the PC is going in to surgery for upgrades ... that commercial is HALARIOUS!
GO MAC!
Come ON VDJ! Get that Mac Version out sooN!! cant wait!
(and incase anyone is wondering, some things leaked out before in one of my forums ... VDJ PRO for MAC IS COMING VERY SOON! =)
(im learning to be patient .. lol i love VDJ so it's hard!)
geposted Sun 11 Mar 07 @ 5:32 am
ConQuest
As "pro-Mac" as I am, I still comprehend that everything is relative.
I have to remind people ALL the time that although we don't have any widespread, completely avoidable (if microsoft were at all competent) "windows-like" issues on our Mac platform (malware, insecurity, instability, incompatability, etc.) , that does NOT mean that there are not any issues on Macs.
Again, it's because windows is SO bad as an OS, that Mac looks SO good. That does NOT mean that it's perfect.
Yes, VDJ/VV Mac will be out VERY soon. The question now is how will it compare to it's windows counterpart?
The fact is that running VDJ/VV on our better Mac OS will make a difference, but will the Mac version have all the capabilites of VDJ/VV windows, especially in terms of handling video? That remains to be seen.
Yet I have the utmost confidence in Atomix/Numark. =)
I have to remind people ALL the time that although we don't have any widespread, completely avoidable (if microsoft were at all competent) "windows-like" issues on our Mac platform (malware, insecurity, instability, incompatability, etc.) , that does NOT mean that there are not any issues on Macs.
Again, it's because windows is SO bad as an OS, that Mac looks SO good. That does NOT mean that it's perfect.
Yes, VDJ/VV Mac will be out VERY soon. The question now is how will it compare to it's windows counterpart?
The fact is that running VDJ/VV on our better Mac OS will make a difference, but will the Mac version have all the capabilites of VDJ/VV windows, especially in terms of handling video? That remains to be seen.
Yet I have the utmost confidence in Atomix/Numark. =)
geposted Sun 11 Mar 07 @ 1:14 pm
Charlie Five
I am crossing my fingers that it will be Leopard compatible.....I'm waiting on the new MAC's to drop with Leopard installed. Hopefully they come out at the same time as MAC VDJ.
geposted Sun 18 Mar 07 @ 3:16 am
sbangs
SpeedDemond29 wrote :
ITS A MAC ! OF COURSE ITLL WORK!
Go to http://www.apple.com and watch that commercial when the PC is going in to surgery for upgrades ... that commercial is HALARIOUS!
GO MAC!
Come ON VDJ! Get that Mac Version out sooN!! cant wait!
(and incase anyone is wondering, some things leaked out before in one of my forums ... VDJ PRO for MAC IS COMING VERY SOON! =)
(im learning to be patient .. lol i love VDJ so it's hard!)
Go to http://www.apple.com and watch that commercial when the PC is going in to surgery for upgrades ... that commercial is HALARIOUS!
GO MAC!
Come ON VDJ! Get that Mac Version out sooN!! cant wait!
(and incase anyone is wondering, some things leaked out before in one of my forums ... VDJ PRO for MAC IS COMING VERY SOON! =)
(im learning to be patient .. lol i love VDJ so it's hard!)
belive nothing you see or hear on tv
only belive half you read.
and only belive 1/10 of what your told by people
and never listen to wikipedia ever , i mean people like me write on there!!
i keep telling you lol its like quouting that microsoft is the best company in the world
Source : microsoft corp.
=)
have a nice day all:)
geposted Sun 18 Mar 07 @ 10:38 am
ConQuest
True.
Don't believe all the hype and propoganda that you see, hear, or read, however a lot of the info that's coming out in regards to Macs vs. windows pc's is neither hype nor propoganda, it's the truth being communicated by word of mouth between users worldwide.
There's a lot of truth behind the "Get A Mac" commercials, even if they over simplify things. They are commercials afterall. ;)
There's a reason that windows users are switching to Macs by the hundreds of thousands (well over a million forecasted for this year) and no Mac users are switching to windows only pc's, especially now that any Mac can run windows and Linux 100% natively. =)
Don't believe all the hype and propoganda that you see, hear, or read, however a lot of the info that's coming out in regards to Macs vs. windows pc's is neither hype nor propoganda, it's the truth being communicated by word of mouth between users worldwide.
There's a lot of truth behind the "Get A Mac" commercials, even if they over simplify things. They are commercials afterall. ;)
There's a reason that windows users are switching to Macs by the hundreds of thousands (well over a million forecasted for this year) and no Mac users are switching to windows only pc's, especially now that any Mac can run windows and Linux 100% natively. =)
geposted Sun 18 Mar 07 @ 8:28 pm
sbangs
partialy true however the mac adverts do them selves a disservice in particular the one about how a pc is for work and a mac is for fun not work
many many companies want a purework machine so they might as well be advertising microsoft in that one as they are also the biggest buyers industry so..
self defeating
:(
many many companies want a purework machine so they might as well be advertising microsoft in that one as they are also the biggest buyers industry so..
self defeating
:(
geposted Sun 18 Mar 07 @ 9:12 pm
ConQuest
Back in 2002 and 2003, what we noticed was that a lot of the people that were switching were business owners and other execs who outside of the office, are just simple users like most other people.
They were (and still are) doing the same thing. They are getting Macs at home because they're tired of their troublesome windows pc's at work and since they usually don't have access to IT personnel at home, they want a computer that "just works".
What I knew then, and is being realized now, is that if their reasoning for getting a Mac at home was to have a reliable computer that could also do everything that they needed to do work-wise (especially now with Intel Macs and Boot Camp or Parallels "Desktop for Mac"/VMWare "Fusion"), then it would just be a matter of time before they figured out that they could save thousands, tens of thousands (or more) dollars a year in lost productivity because of downtime AND IT support costs at their workplace.
The bottom line? If it doesn't break, you don't need to fix it. I've said it before many times on these forums and I'll say it again; windows is an IT person's best friend because it means job security.
It's been proven for years that on the average, 1 windows IT person is needed for every 10 windows computers, while only 1 Mac IT person may be needed for every 50 Macs. 5x the reliability... at least.
Unfortunately for IT and CIO's, CEO's and CFO's are always looking to cut costs and are the ones who employ them. This information is getting around quicker than you think.
Granted, the highly visible television commercials are going after the common public, but Apple has it's business and enterprise initiatives in place and have been winning contracts over from windows computer manufacturers (especially Dell) in good amounts ever since the Apple Business Specialist position was created back in October of 2002.
Why would the common public need to know about Xserve, Xserve RAID, or xSan? But do you really think that no one's buying them besides Apple's traditional niche markets? If you do well, I can neither confirm or deny either way. =)
It's about to get a LOT better with the Intel transition of ALL Macs having been completed last August and when enterprise focused Leopard trounces vista after it's release. Expect to hear about HUGE contract wins starting as early as this year, but especially starting in '08... or rather, don't expect to hear about any of that.
Apple has been making moves into the business and enterprise sector for years and it's about to get REALLY big, but shhh... no one needs to know that. ;)
Remember, a major factor in winning a war is the element of surpise. =D
As a matter of fact, you're right, Apple's Mac's aren't for business.
They were (and still are) doing the same thing. They are getting Macs at home because they're tired of their troublesome windows pc's at work and since they usually don't have access to IT personnel at home, they want a computer that "just works".
What I knew then, and is being realized now, is that if their reasoning for getting a Mac at home was to have a reliable computer that could also do everything that they needed to do work-wise (especially now with Intel Macs and Boot Camp or Parallels "Desktop for Mac"/VMWare "Fusion"), then it would just be a matter of time before they figured out that they could save thousands, tens of thousands (or more) dollars a year in lost productivity because of downtime AND IT support costs at their workplace.
The bottom line? If it doesn't break, you don't need to fix it. I've said it before many times on these forums and I'll say it again; windows is an IT person's best friend because it means job security.
It's been proven for years that on the average, 1 windows IT person is needed for every 10 windows computers, while only 1 Mac IT person may be needed for every 50 Macs. 5x the reliability... at least.
Unfortunately for IT and CIO's, CEO's and CFO's are always looking to cut costs and are the ones who employ them. This information is getting around quicker than you think.
Granted, the highly visible television commercials are going after the common public, but Apple has it's business and enterprise initiatives in place and have been winning contracts over from windows computer manufacturers (especially Dell) in good amounts ever since the Apple Business Specialist position was created back in October of 2002.
Why would the common public need to know about Xserve, Xserve RAID, or xSan? But do you really think that no one's buying them besides Apple's traditional niche markets? If you do well, I can neither confirm or deny either way. =)
It's about to get a LOT better with the Intel transition of ALL Macs having been completed last August and when enterprise focused Leopard trounces vista after it's release. Expect to hear about HUGE contract wins starting as early as this year, but especially starting in '08... or rather, don't expect to hear about any of that.
Apple has been making moves into the business and enterprise sector for years and it's about to get REALLY big, but shhh... no one needs to know that. ;)
Remember, a major factor in winning a war is the element of surpise. =D
As a matter of fact, you're right, Apple's Mac's aren't for business.
geposted Mon 19 Mar 07 @ 12:24 am
ConQuest
Here's an interesting and fairly insightful read about Leopard, Vista, and for the business minded, TCO (Total Cost of Ownership). THAT is what matters to most CEO's and CFO's nowadays more than introductory cost ("bargain bin" computers that Apple doesn't bother with).
Windows 5x More Expensive than Mac OS X
"How much does it cost to maintain Windows and Mac OS X? Since Apple has released five times as many major updates and over fifteen times as many minor updates to Mac OS X since 2000, you might not have guessed that Windows actually costs users five times as much to keep up to date!
How will software pricing affect sales of Apple's upcoming Leopard and Microsoft's Vista? Here's a historical comparison of professional desktop operating systems from both, leading up to a future outlook for how Microsoft’s significantly more expensive platform will affect new computer sales in 2007..."
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Home/660E746C-F388-4AC7-98F5-6CB951501472.html
Windows 5x More Expensive than Mac OS X
"How much does it cost to maintain Windows and Mac OS X? Since Apple has released five times as many major updates and over fifteen times as many minor updates to Mac OS X since 2000, you might not have guessed that Windows actually costs users five times as much to keep up to date!
How will software pricing affect sales of Apple's upcoming Leopard and Microsoft's Vista? Here's a historical comparison of professional desktop operating systems from both, leading up to a future outlook for how Microsoft’s significantly more expensive platform will affect new computer sales in 2007..."
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Home/660E746C-F388-4AC7-98F5-6CB951501472.html
geposted Mon 19 Mar 07 @ 12:42 am