DJ CHOPSTIX
Don't know how many have attempted to use it for karaoke... but tried it out last night for the first time and these are the problems that have come forth. The VDJ writers have been pretty good to us, letting us provide input for software upgrades. So what else would you like to see in using karaoke?
--Many zip files don't load. (No, I'm not going to rezip almost 200k songs)
--Search function is rusty.. you need to know the exact way the song is formatted (ie Petty, Tom - Into The Great Wipe Open) If you don't put the space after the comma... outta luck. Sax-N-Dotty works great for this.. so maybe steal a little code?
--Ability to have an "in between" screen. When I fade out of a karaoke song into a MP3, would be nice to have an advertisement for the company on there.
--Many zip files don't load. (No, I'm not going to rezip almost 200k songs)
--Search function is rusty.. you need to know the exact way the song is formatted (ie Petty, Tom - Into The Great Wipe Open) If you don't put the space after the comma... outta luck. Sax-N-Dotty works great for this.. so maybe steal a little code?
--Ability to have an "in between" screen. When I fade out of a karaoke song into a MP3, would be nice to have an advertisement for the company on there.
geposted Fri 23 Mar 07 @ 5:11 pm
DJ Marcel_1
Why have the songs zipped at all?
Why not have the files on a dedicated hard drive?
Hard drives are so cheap, why compress?
Why not have the files on a dedicated hard drive?
Hard drives are so cheap, why compress?
geposted Fri 23 Mar 07 @ 6:07 pm
djsherz
DJ Marcel_1 wrote :
Why have the songs zipped at all?
Why not have the files on a dedicated hard drive?
Hard drives are so cheap, why compress?
Why not have the files on a dedicated hard drive?
Hard drives are so cheap, why compress?
Karaoke songs tend to be zipped out of convenience. Unlike a normal mp3, they come in two parts - the mp3 file, and the graphics file. Rather than seeing both files in your browser (only one of which will load anyway) the two components of the karaoke track are zipped into a folder with the song's name. This makes the browser look a lot tidier, and makes it easier when moving stuff around on your hard drive - no chance of "losing" the graphics data when reorganising your song collection. So it's really more about organisation than compression...
Incidentally, apologies if you're a KJ yourself - that wasn't meant to sound patronising! I just started doing the karaoke thing a couple of months ago myself, and found the whole zipping thing a bit of a mystery at first as well... :-)
geposted Fri 23 Mar 07 @ 6:25 pm
DJ CHOPSTIX
Like was said, has nothing to do with compression. I have an external 400 gig h/d. When I add the files, that's how they come from the software I was using to rip them off the CDG discs.
geposted Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 12:51 am
bryantpb
200,000 songs at a cost of 1 to 2 dollars a piece on average? man, whatya charge for ya gigs to make a profit from that kinda expense. :)
geposted Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 6:26 am
DJ CHOPSTIX
Bought the H/D with 160,000.....
The others mysteriously ended up on my H/D while I was sleeping
FWIW, depending on the setup I bring... anywhere from 200-2000
The others mysteriously ended up on my H/D while I was sleeping
FWIW, depending on the setup I bring... anywhere from 200-2000
geposted Sun 25 Mar 07 @ 3:14 am
DJ CHOPSTIX
So VDJ developers... will this be fixed in 4.4?
geposted Sun 01 Apr 07 @ 1:06 am
karaokeman2002
I to have the same problem with zips, so here is a short term solution until the developers come up with a permanent fix for this problem hope this helps.
http://www.byrequest.dj/zcr.exe
Zip Contents Renamer renames the CDG and MP3 file inside a ZIP file to match the name of the ZIP file, allowing your MP3+G collection to be better organized. This is also much quicker than unzipping and renaming both files. An added feature is that ZIP file comments are stripped from the file automatically.
For example, suppose you decide to change the naming format of your karaoke songs from Artist - Song - Disc to Disc - Artist - Song. just changing the file name of the ZP file may cause some software karaoke players to crash. By renaming the CDG and MP3 file to match the name of the ZIP file, you can avoid this potential problem.
http://www.byrequest.dj/zcr.exe
Zip Contents Renamer renames the CDG and MP3 file inside a ZIP file to match the name of the ZIP file, allowing your MP3+G collection to be better organized. This is also much quicker than unzipping and renaming both files. An added feature is that ZIP file comments are stripped from the file automatically.
For example, suppose you decide to change the naming format of your karaoke songs from Artist - Song - Disc to Disc - Artist - Song. just changing the file name of the ZP file may cause some software karaoke players to crash. By renaming the CDG and MP3 file to match the name of the ZIP file, you can avoid this potential problem.
geposted Sun 01 Apr 07 @ 3:05 am
bryantpb
All of my zip files work before unzipping to bin, then none of them work after I rezip them back to zip from bin, using mp3toolz. All the correct naming stuff is used and checked. mp3toolz does something to the zip on the first time unzipped, because when it is zipped back up (regardless of what zipper program I use or what compression or NO compression I use), they simply don't work afterwards.
No one has come forth with an idea yet??
No one has come forth with an idea yet??
geposted Sun 01 Apr 07 @ 10:57 pm
andytaylor125
Chopstix:
Hi, fraid I havn't got a clue about zipping, but it's dead easy to have an advert (or series of adverts) while you have mp3s playing. You just have to click on the "config" button, go to the video tab, then click on the list next to "use this effect for audio only files", select slideshow from that list, then click OK.
Just make yourself an advert (or get one from the place where you work) and save it as a bmp or jpg.
In Virtual DJ click on the effects tab on the main screen, then click video effects and select slideshow. Next click the button that says "open" and find the picture file that you want.
It should now come up whenever you play an mp3! If you actually want a slideshow of lots of adverts, just put several pictures in the same folder and it will go through them in turn.
Hope that helps, good luck with the zipping problem.
:)
Hi, fraid I havn't got a clue about zipping, but it's dead easy to have an advert (or series of adverts) while you have mp3s playing. You just have to click on the "config" button, go to the video tab, then click on the list next to "use this effect for audio only files", select slideshow from that list, then click OK.
Just make yourself an advert (or get one from the place where you work) and save it as a bmp or jpg.
In Virtual DJ click on the effects tab on the main screen, then click video effects and select slideshow. Next click the button that says "open" and find the picture file that you want.
It should now come up whenever you play an mp3! If you actually want a slideshow of lots of adverts, just put several pictures in the same folder and it will go through them in turn.
Hope that helps, good luck with the zipping problem.
:)
geposted Mon 02 Apr 07 @ 3:45 am
karaokeman2002
Hi, just tried mp3+g toolz and yes your right......even though the zip, naming and compression are the same it stops working, although like said before - ONLY IN VDJ - the zips worl perfectley fine using (winamp(cdg plugin), sax n dotty), pcdj, clubdjpro, swift elite, in fact every other karaoke program ! This is whats stopping me from being able to use vdj soley for my gigs cos i cannot play at least over half of my songs because of this bug in the vdj zip/cdg decoder. It seems it has been ignored and ignored as this was reported ages ago when vdj was first able to play mp3+g files. If a job worth doing then do it properley or dont do it at all, in other words fix the dam bug or take the ability of karaoke out completely or loose a big chunk of users who are kj`s. I am a kj and i use this mostly for karaoke, its useless unless it works properley, yes the rest of the program is great and the advances are good but wake up developers and fix this problem please, we are paying customers LISTEN ! This is not some niggly problem it is a major flaw and stops proper use of the program for karaoke which is advertised on your website. It wont go away, and it cant be fixed by workarounds when your talking about 1000,s of files it needs the decoder re-writing or and option to use the winamp cdg decoder plugin instead. I too paid for this program and would pay for the fix if i had to so would many other dj`s who need to use the karaoke function. Its ok keep bringing out fancy features for vdj in new versions but pointless if your not going to fix one of the biggest bug in this program. We are waiting with baited breath...........
geposted Mon 02 Apr 07 @ 11:16 am
bryantpb
"We are waiting with baited breath........... "...
Well stated karaokeman, The idea of having these forums is that when someone brings up what mat seem at first a rogue incident with the program, then someone else sees the problem miles away with an entirely different system, perhaps, and finally, the problem is seen as a major bug, then work should begin immediately on those that paid good money for a "useful" program. Or what's the sense of the forum...just a place to complain...if so, it shouldn't be.
We shouldn't have to buy a new computer to get a new version to work and also to lose some previous working features. What I see happening is that some of us will just spend the money on a program that does work as it is advertised., instead.
Well stated karaokeman, The idea of having these forums is that when someone brings up what mat seem at first a rogue incident with the program, then someone else sees the problem miles away with an entirely different system, perhaps, and finally, the problem is seen as a major bug, then work should begin immediately on those that paid good money for a "useful" program. Or what's the sense of the forum...just a place to complain...if so, it shouldn't be.
We shouldn't have to buy a new computer to get a new version to work and also to lose some previous working features. What I see happening is that some of us will just spend the money on a program that does work as it is advertised., instead.
geposted Mon 02 Apr 07 @ 3:36 pm
karaokeman2002
Just as a matter of interest this post has been read 274 times read more than any post listed in this forum today, does that tell u something !!!!
geposted Mon 02 Apr 07 @ 7:38 pm
karaokeman2002
Do not restrict yourself on yesterday's tools
VirtualDJ brings all its technology to the service of karaoke.
It lets you easily play both karaoke files in DVD format (.vob, .avi, .mpg, etc), and in CDG format (MP3+G, WAV+G, WMA+G, ZIP, etc).
Its preview windows let you cue your next tracks without interrupting the actual singer.
Video and audio effects will let you spice up your animation.
If the event continues into a regular party afterward, VirtualDJ will be there to help you mix all your songs with perfection
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Do not restrict yourself on yesterday's tools:
Is this a joke yesterdays tools play all my karaoke files vdj wont play even half
Ok still no reply, I suggest anyone reading this post to all club together and add a post with your name and make this the biggest post ever and show these people how many of you suffer from this problem with zips, if we all stand up and be counted then hopefully soemone will fix this bug and we can get back to what we all do best which is dj`ing. When we buy windows xp, there are many bugs, but because we support the software in one way or another and buy the product instead of pirating copies of it we expect the bugs to be repaired, and they are. The same should be applicable to virtual dj, I paid good money fro this product, and still cannot use it for karaoke, instead as vdj programmers would say im having to revert to yesterdays tools, that funnily enough play all my zips. Then they have the cheek to say that its the zips and not vdj, that is rubbish logic if your a coder you will know what i mean tells you that there is some incompatibility with the zip decoder. As these files work with every other package. I have spent a lot of time and research into other software as an aio solution and virtual dj is the only one that works best but for this one problem. Ok so we get crashes and lockups -big deal- windows crashes and locks up, thats the beauty of computers. Developers STOP MAKING EXCUSES AND FIX THE PROBLEM.....Ok guys all please post and show your support..................
VirtualDJ brings all its technology to the service of karaoke.
It lets you easily play both karaoke files in DVD format (.vob, .avi, .mpg, etc), and in CDG format (MP3+G, WAV+G, WMA+G, ZIP, etc).
Its preview windows let you cue your next tracks without interrupting the actual singer.
Video and audio effects will let you spice up your animation.
If the event continues into a regular party afterward, VirtualDJ will be there to help you mix all your songs with perfection
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Do not restrict yourself on yesterday's tools:
Is this a joke yesterdays tools play all my karaoke files vdj wont play even half
Ok still no reply, I suggest anyone reading this post to all club together and add a post with your name and make this the biggest post ever and show these people how many of you suffer from this problem with zips, if we all stand up and be counted then hopefully soemone will fix this bug and we can get back to what we all do best which is dj`ing. When we buy windows xp, there are many bugs, but because we support the software in one way or another and buy the product instead of pirating copies of it we expect the bugs to be repaired, and they are. The same should be applicable to virtual dj, I paid good money fro this product, and still cannot use it for karaoke, instead as vdj programmers would say im having to revert to yesterdays tools, that funnily enough play all my zips. Then they have the cheek to say that its the zips and not vdj, that is rubbish logic if your a coder you will know what i mean tells you that there is some incompatibility with the zip decoder. As these files work with every other package. I have spent a lot of time and research into other software as an aio solution and virtual dj is the only one that works best but for this one problem. Ok so we get crashes and lockups -big deal- windows crashes and locks up, thats the beauty of computers. Developers STOP MAKING EXCUSES AND FIX THE PROBLEM.....Ok guys all please post and show your support..................
geposted Mon 02 Apr 07 @ 10:47 pm
discobrian24
Ok I have had a problem before with zips that were created with mp3tools. If you unzip the offending files and use windows to re-zip they will work. I know this would be a lot of work, but it does work. Someone must have a better solution but if not then using what I said above will work.
geposted Tue 03 Apr 07 @ 12:29 am
karaokeman2002
I would be really interested in knowing what version of windows your using with built in zipping capability, as windows will only unzip not zip, unless your of course refering to winzip and even then have a guess how long it would take to unzip then re-zip 130,000 zips !!! Not practical, again this is or would be a workaround the problem not a solution if it had been practical. Its like treating a desease instead of curing it...
geposted Tue 03 Apr 07 @ 12:59 am
sbangs
xp.. select the files you want and right click > send to > zip.
geposted Tue 03 Apr 07 @ 1:26 am
discobrian24
Like sky said you click on the 2 files while holding down ctrl, then right click and zip.
geposted Tue 03 Apr 07 @ 1:47 am
DJ CHOPSTIX
discobrian24 wrote :
Like sky said you click on the 2 files while holding down ctrl, then right click and zip.
And like KaraokeMan said.... to do this to his 130,000 songs or my 174,000+ songs this would be impractical and a duct tape job specially since 60% of the ZIPs will not be able to be decompressed with Windows built in version of WinZip
geposted Tue 03 Apr 07 @ 3:05 am
karaokeman2002
Maybe he would like to volunteer to take mt 130,000 tracks and do the job himself maybe he`ll finish the job in about 6 months ha ha, maybe the coders of vdj have just not got the brains to fix this problem or there just not interested in customers who pay for there software. No wonder there`s so many pirate version of vdj on usenet and forums i could mention.......
geposted Tue 03 Apr 07 @ 11:43 am
