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last night me and my wife went to a club and the dj was playing all the downloaded transistion he could find from crooklynclan... he wasn't even using them right just one trasistion to the next not even playing the songs they were transistioning to

it was actually quite funny

lead my to my new promotional slogan for 2009.

'i heard your dj.... hire me!
 
geposted Tue 23 Dec 08 @ 4:31 pm


hehe...

I've heard a lot of similar kind of djs, mixing "safe" with a buch of remixes in a row from same producer...
It ends up wrong and boring ;)
 
his sound went out twice and just found out it was the bounced unpluging the speakers through out the night
 
i gave that site a look... pretty cool mixes. i think i have too much pride to act as if they were my own tho
 
I can only take one crooklen clan whatever in one night. If I were on the dance floor I'd get tired of getting yelled at all night umm yeahh...
 
sirkitbreaker wrote :


'i heard your dj.... hire me!



Think I'll joing you with that one. Was out on Saturday. Never heard so mucg crap in my life. Was in a club I frequented 20 years ago and they were playing the same music. HATED IT
 
Blame the owners for the crappy Djs. Most owners today don't know what kind of experience, music knowlege, psychology and talent it takes to be a really good dj. Most owners think anybody can get up there and pick the top 10 songs and play them over and over again (which is what most crappy Djs do), but once they actually cough up some cash and hire a really good experienced Dj and they see how much more the bar rang their tune starts to change a bit (sometimes)!
 
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Some bar owners have been in the game TOO LONG to realise that its not the 80s any more, but they insist their DJs play nothing but 80s (and no current party floorfillers)
 
marksmolinski wrote :
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Some bar owners have been in the game TOO LONG to realise that its not the 80s any more, but they insist their DJs play nothing but 80s (and no current party floorfillers)


My own personal opinion of this is when music doesn't advance in a positive way, people and dj's go backwards.
If you look at the current re released covers or hooks that are stolen and run over in an attempt to draw people in it becomes apparent that the music today is lacking something.
We all struggle to find that something everytime we play.
But, with the trend towared gangsta, porn and the screaming modern rock, owners are looking for options, not problems with guests that in turn cause bad reputations scaring people away from fights, stabbings and even shootings.
IMO, owners are tired of dealing with these kinds of problems and is why they want different music on.

You can create your own mixes on the fly using hot cues too easily to use some of these remixers.
Many of them are piss poor anyway, particularly the mash ups.
 
marksmolinski wrote :
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Some bar owners have been in the game TOO LONG to realise that its not the 80s any more, but they insist their DJs play nothing but 80s (and no current party floorfillers)


actully like the direction my post is heading now.... but i can do an 80's set that racks better than my modern top 40 set
 
DJ Cyder wrote :
I can only take one crooklen clan whatever in one night. If I were on the dance floor I'd get tired of getting yelled at all night umm yeahh...


too funny!

Actually I am a crooklyn clan VIDEO remixer and I totally agree!

The remixes I CHOOSE to put to video are not the OVER HYPED Fatman Scoop yelling tracks mashed with 8 different tracks (which is way over done now)... the ones I choose are more dance/club style remixes or clever but simple mash-ups that actually sound good.

I have heard plenty dj's playing like it was an over produced mega-mix medley party break for an hour straight... very exhausting and annoying to listen to really...

I feel for the customer whose favorite track is being played for 30 seconds then gone... I personally don't get it. call me old school.

I understand an occasional quick mix here and there but... come on already.
 
Very good post Al

As ASwift said in that "kitchen sink" thread, I feel "junking up" tracks with effects both audio and video blitzes people to the point of getting lost in it all.
Now if you are spaced/drop dead loaded you ain't really aware anyway.

"Blending" tracks that magically mingle with each other is what I consider the objective and even better if the song meaning works into it.
This is what makes the mash ups I hear soooo annoying.
You feel yourself following each track in your head, and after a while it sounds too butchered up to play.
Vocal, key and rhythm clashes, are what ruin these tracks.

Key detection with Camelot key code is one of my favorite features for finding mixable tracks by sorting and narrowing down the options for mixing live on the fly.
 
yup, there are quie a few djs in my town that play waaaaay too much crooklym clan ish, its good stuff...but these guys cant rely soley on the crooklyn stuff....
i know djs that will totally mix the whole night...they feel they have to mix everything...even if the bpm is 100 bpm and the song they are mixing into is 128 :)
someytimes u justhave to drop the song to build a NEW energy
live and learn people
 
just to add what i think and say...... I beleive a lot of dj's are falling into this mash-up phase not really realizing that songs were made to stand alone. Sure you can transition ect but a good song played the way it was produced sounds better than to mediocre songs overlapping. Maybe it all comes down to song vocabulary
 
i use vdj for every gig and love it
i found a program that can remix records
i go to crooklyn clan website and listen to the remixes and then i create them myself
**i did a prom after i mastered the remix program
i had everyone dancing with vdj then i switched programs and remixed a few songs---i was ready to rock the house l
members of the prom committee came up and demanded that i play the whole song and stop remixing
point taken---
i have fun remixing in my house and make many minimixes that are crazy---but when it's time to dj -- club or mobile --i use vdj all the way and play the song
***the number one rule--the client is always right!!!!!
 
the client/customer(s) "thinks" they are always right. keep that in mind.

i have had customers ask for songs that they swear up-hill and down that "its gonna get people on the floor!".

can you see where this is gonna go? can you see where it has gone occasionally?

learning how to tell a customer no, or that they are wrong is something i have had to do in self-defense over the years and still have to cope with occasionally.

and about the crooklyn clan stuff - two tracks on the hard drive.. thats it.
 

Most mash-ups are "change for changes sake" but few actually bring something new to the table or enhance both songs.
 
favorite mashup
i ike to mix oldies with a dance beat
and then mix it into current music
that's about it
and i'll throw on one accapella with a beat--end of story
i've learned mt lesson
 
I personally don't mind the remixes but I feel the energy has to be there for it to fall in place and that is the job of the DJ. No matter what bpm he is playing he has to set up the crowd for that remix. So going along with Sirkit it falls on experence of DJing the old fashion way. Acturally not relying on the computer enhancements or capabilities and using the " song vocabulary, proper key detection, how long to stay in a bpm and know what crowd you have in front of you."

Just because you can download a song just as easily as hitting the play button doesn't mean you should actually play it that night. Helll, I many songs that will rock the dance floor but I'm wait for that special feeling you get when you know it's right to put on. That's the problem with computerized DJing now. It's too easy to produce a set and no guts and feeling go into it anymore. Remember the old days where you had to search the record case or cd covers and go on instinct what the next couple of songs where going to be like.

Customers would come up for a request and you could say " I'll check to see if I have it " and they would go away. Now they sit in front of you until you give them an answer and at better be "yes and next".

Bottom line is new DJs should learn the build up and breakdown of their sets. Then remixes are not the enemy.

Your right, club owners are tired of dealing with that "wanna be" crowd. Two weaks ago I had a woman and her boyfriend there for a christmas party before I started. I started my set and went in pretty hard since I had a good crowd there all ready. She came up to me we with that " hey, why don't you play something I can dance to " attitude. I looking at her like are you kidding me. Surely she can look around and clearly see she was the only one that even looked like her. Everyone was in the late 20's but mostly 30s and above. Theres no way I was going to put on songs so she could shake her HOOCHIE booty. Even her boy caught on to the vibe there currently. Every set is not straight new hip hop and NO Lil Wayne is not "GOD". Seams like lil wayne and TI has to be played every other song. COME ON PEOPLE.... GET MUSIC EDUCATED... SNAP OUT OF IT.
 
fatkatzdj wrote :
Every set is not straight new hip hop and NO Lil Wayne is not "GOD". Seams like lil wayne and TI has to be played every other song. COME ON PEOPLE.... GET MUSIC EDUCATED... SNAP OUT OF IT.


Best post ever.......NUFF said......

The other day, I heard a dude playing, lethal weapon mixes and XMIX after XMIX, and only using the SYNC button, but dropping the songs in just about anywhere he wanted, it sounded like crap. People were actually confused as to when a new song would start because it was so random, after a while they gave up and stopped dancing. He wasn't even using earphones, just using the SYNC feature and using the visuals.

The skill and fun in DJing is dying with this younger generation................it almost makes me shed a tear. ;(

I actually wish music was harder to get in a way, and that SYNC buttons could only be enabled after "paying" you dues.....LOL
 
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