fndj1
Back to the original focus of this discussion.
What owners and girls have in common is money---they want it.
I've been in the business for 12 years now. You're playing a balancing act between the two of them everytime and there's something to be learned by listening to both sides.
The owner has a strong idea of who he/she wants in their building and the music should be a reflection of that. The girls are almost always going to go for new stuff and mixing that in (regardless of genre) along with music your crowd has a clue about is the best way to keep everyone content which is what you should be aiming for.
If you demonstrate to the ladies that you know what they like, not just play specific songs but a general understanding of their music in general (and it won't be the same genres everytime) they'll leave you alone and start treating you like the expert which is what they and the owner both secretly want; to be able to trust you so they can go on worrying about something else.
I also agree with what was said earlier about your MC skills. This has more impact on the course of the evening than is usally given credit for.
That doesn't mean rambling on and on like you're the star but the energy and attitude you project can have a definite impact on the evening and affect everyone's enjoyment. Don't expect anyone to give you credit for that as they may just assume you're playing "good music"
I can go on and on, drop me a private message if you'd like. Hope that helps.
What owners and girls have in common is money---they want it.
I've been in the business for 12 years now. You're playing a balancing act between the two of them everytime and there's something to be learned by listening to both sides.
The owner has a strong idea of who he/she wants in their building and the music should be a reflection of that. The girls are almost always going to go for new stuff and mixing that in (regardless of genre) along with music your crowd has a clue about is the best way to keep everyone content which is what you should be aiming for.
If you demonstrate to the ladies that you know what they like, not just play specific songs but a general understanding of their music in general (and it won't be the same genres everytime) they'll leave you alone and start treating you like the expert which is what they and the owner both secretly want; to be able to trust you so they can go on worrying about something else.
I also agree with what was said earlier about your MC skills. This has more impact on the course of the evening than is usally given credit for.
That doesn't mean rambling on and on like you're the star but the energy and attitude you project can have a definite impact on the evening and affect everyone's enjoyment. Don't expect anyone to give you credit for that as they may just assume you're playing "good music"
I can go on and on, drop me a private message if you'd like. Hope that helps.
geposted Thu 18 Dec 08 @ 9:28 pm
uuuuh , i don't need the help but thanks for the offer
the last thing the world needs is another apologist for the owners , they're pimps
just to be crystal clear about this .... i have the same low opinion of the owners as i do of most of the strippers .....
ok let's talk about the music ......you are gonna have to rely on your own expertise as always ..... most of what you will hear from the strippers
will be the usual self indulgent inappropriate requests we always get , except even worse than normal ......for instance slipknot was mentioned don't play that ...... you will discover after awhile the artists that the heroin addicts like , there is a certain amount of them are going to ask for adult ambient (just cuz it's slow bpm) so avoid the hooverphonic and the bjork , for example ......there is a contingent that is going to want slow rnb , whether it's new or old ....they just want it because it's slow and they are lazy , as proof of what i said , ask the dance professional for the names of the artists or songs they like .....they won't know .......or they will only know a handful .... amazingly , almost none can burn there own cd's .....if you take there cd's don't be an idiot , scan it first ......( if you are considering ripping it to the hard drive ) (if you change the default secondary ide channel to the proper configuration and you have sufficient RAM you can play the music and rip simultaneously ) you need a good system and the knowledge required to take advantage of such a computer .
there are certain , unfortunately accepted , conventions or formulas that say play lotsa classic rock and modern rock .... i only accept that to a very limited extent .....because ....the world REALLY doesn't need to hear "Girls , Girls , Girls" or any of the hundreds of other overplayed songs one more time .... the Pearl Jam and STP .....give it a rest .... one thing I do is I play cool covers , like lenny kravitz 's cover of bill withers iconic "ain't no sunshine " ........ I play AC DC and Motley Crue , but i pick out tunes that are a little off the beaten track .... instead of TNT play Money Talks or Rock 'n Roll Ain't Noise Pollution .... live a little , instead of Girls , Girls ,Girls , play the new saints of los angeles ..... Chinese Democracy is great , every track , play that ....
i play a little hippity hop cuz ,it's trivial and harmless .....
i play as little rap as possible .......
i play zero gangsta ( male or female ) ........
if you only play the strippers requests , you are there bitch and your money suffers because of that ......
the last thing the world needs is another apologist for the owners , they're pimps
just to be crystal clear about this .... i have the same low opinion of the owners as i do of most of the strippers .....
ok let's talk about the music ......you are gonna have to rely on your own expertise as always ..... most of what you will hear from the strippers
will be the usual self indulgent inappropriate requests we always get , except even worse than normal ......for instance slipknot was mentioned don't play that ...... you will discover after awhile the artists that the heroin addicts like , there is a certain amount of them are going to ask for adult ambient (just cuz it's slow bpm) so avoid the hooverphonic and the bjork , for example ......there is a contingent that is going to want slow rnb , whether it's new or old ....they just want it because it's slow and they are lazy , as proof of what i said , ask the dance professional for the names of the artists or songs they like .....they won't know .......or they will only know a handful .... amazingly , almost none can burn there own cd's .....if you take there cd's don't be an idiot , scan it first ......( if you are considering ripping it to the hard drive ) (if you change the default secondary ide channel to the proper configuration and you have sufficient RAM you can play the music and rip simultaneously ) you need a good system and the knowledge required to take advantage of such a computer .
there are certain , unfortunately accepted , conventions or formulas that say play lotsa classic rock and modern rock .... i only accept that to a very limited extent .....because ....the world REALLY doesn't need to hear "Girls , Girls , Girls" or any of the hundreds of other overplayed songs one more time .... the Pearl Jam and STP .....give it a rest .... one thing I do is I play cool covers , like lenny kravitz 's cover of bill withers iconic "ain't no sunshine " ........ I play AC DC and Motley Crue , but i pick out tunes that are a little off the beaten track .... instead of TNT play Money Talks or Rock 'n Roll Ain't Noise Pollution .... live a little , instead of Girls , Girls ,Girls , play the new saints of los angeles ..... Chinese Democracy is great , every track , play that ....
i play a little hippity hop cuz ,it's trivial and harmless .....
i play as little rap as possible .......
i play zero gangsta ( male or female ) ........
if you only play the strippers requests , you are there bitch and your money suffers because of that ......
geposted Fri 19 Dec 08 @ 5:31 am
pmysko
I've been doing strip clubs only for three years as a relief DJ on Sun Mon. How I get threw the gig is I go back in time when I had no clue of what tune to put on next no beat matchin mixing etc. I get the list of songs each girl likes make a folder. When its there set open play the first thing I see till the end of the night. That's is oh yeah J W Black helps too
geposted Fri 19 Dec 08 @ 12:54 pm
Treadway0631
No offense chuck, but your making false assumptions about some of us "strippers" to let you know, I am in my third year at Ohio State, so yes, we can indeed be educated. To add something else, I have never used drugs, for the exception of the occasional drink or two. Last but not least, nice "strip clubs" do exsist. Diamonds in Dayton, OH is of finer quality. Maybe you are one of those men who we see ever so frequently who have some built up hostility towards a dancer because she wouldnt sleep with him. There are normal girl, normal hard working college girls, who are "strippers". I just wanted to say my piece...thanks!
geposted Mon 23 Mar 09 @ 5:09 pm
djrenee
The downside to digging up this 3 month old post is you will dig up old chuck in the process, this is never a good thing.
LMAO
LMAO
geposted Mon 23 Mar 09 @ 5:24 pm
there's my cue ... thanks Renee'
what was the blondes job at the M&M factory ??
Treadmill don't getcher thong in an uproar ....exceptions to every rule
i ain't apologizing for a word of it .......i have some who are friends and some i've gone out with , but still the majority are trailer park at best and strung out at worst.......
the blonde was a proofreader 'til she got fired for rejecting all the W's .......
what was the blondes job at the M&M factory ??
Treadmill don't getcher thong in an uproar ....exceptions to every rule
i ain't apologizing for a word of it .......i have some who are friends and some i've gone out with , but still the majority are trailer park at best and strung out at worst.......
the blonde was a proofreader 'til she got fired for rejecting all the W's .......
geposted Mon 23 Mar 09 @ 9:45 pm
dj-e-lectric
djrenee wrote :
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I'll concede that you are probably right the majority probably do fit into your "stripper profile". The reason I chimed in I have never been comfortable seeing any race, group, or profession all thrown in the same box. Not all museums are terrorists but they have a TON of really screwed up members in their ranks, just like strippers.
I'll concede that you are probably right the majority probably do fit into your "stripper profile". The reason I chimed in I have never been comfortable seeing any race, group, or profession all thrown in the same box. Not all museums are terrorists but they have a TON of really screwed up members in their ranks, just like strippers.
Stereotypes are based on the MAJORITY of ones experiences with the object or the person of the steryotype....so if you are from a "steroetyped" group and don't want people to think of you as the stereotype then don't dress like the duck, don't walk like the duck and don't quack like the duck and smart people will see you for what you want to be seen as....sorry to speak the brutal truth but it is the truth for ducks, lollipops, strippers and Dj's who use VDJ with a mouse!
PS I used to resemble chuck's trailer trash remarks...but then I bought some wheels and tires for my truck parked out front!
geposted Tue 24 Mar 09 @ 3:49 am
dj-e-lectric
Treadway0631 wrote :
No offense chuck, but your making false assumptions about some of us "strippers" to let you know, I am in my third year at Ohio State, so yes, we can indeed be educated. To add something else, I have never used drugs, for the exception of the occasional drink or two. Last but not least, nice "strip clubs" do exsist. Diamonds in Dayton, OH is of finer quality. Maybe you are one of those men who we see ever so frequently who have some built up hostility towards a dancer because she wouldnt sleep with him. There are normal girl, normal hard working college girls, who are "strippers". I just wanted to say my piece...thanks!
Yes there are exceptions to the rule, but they are few and far between and that is why they are called the "exception" and not the rule!
geposted Tue 24 Mar 09 @ 3:51 am
tayla
hey there is nothing wrong in just using a mouse to control vdj, i can work quicker in the browser using the mouse than i can with any damn controller,
some people may be in a situation where they cannot or want to move to a controller so putting them down is totally out of order. you work with what your comfortable with is the way i see it.
some people may be in a situation where they cannot or want to move to a controller so putting them down is totally out of order. you work with what your comfortable with is the way i see it.
geposted Tue 24 Mar 09 @ 4:52 am
that mind set is typical .... i mean if you challenge there work ethic or morality the response is ..... you tried to get in her pants but didn't get any so it must be sour grapes
as a small subset of the general population they have an extremely strong concentration of the following factors
no car ....of the no car group , many have no car due to the multiple previous driving drunk convictions
of the group that does have a car .... if it's crappy it is there's or there boyfriends.... if it's nice it is the parents or the sugardaddy's
if it's crappy (see above) it has no insurance ......
children out of wedlock ...... by race ..... black strippers with kids ......100% no husband , hispanic ...about 50% no husband is a good guess , white i'll guess 33% ... those are very good educated guesses .... i mention that because it is a very poor indicator for any number of things
of the kids out of wedlock group there will be an unusually high percentage who have had the children taken away by a child welfare agency
these ladies the percentage with drug problems are at or near 100% ......also very transient , many times not in the same residence more than a few months
the "middle class" group ...... there isn't any .... by this i mean just normal mundane things .......checking account , internet , long term residence ,cell phone (it belongs to the sugardaddy) ,credit card, car , library card ,car insurance , registration, AAA sticker on the bumper , club memberships , id cards , shoppers club cards , savings account , savings , kids in little league , a second or third job , night school , that kinda thing .... there isn't any of that
the " i spent my last cent on shoes , a fix or a tattoo " group ..... that group holds nearly 100% of them
they are nice to look at but that's it , that's the extent of the good stuff ......between the sheets they are no better or worse than the much more desirable general female population
gentlemen, don't short change the wife or girlfriend for a stripper , the stripper ain't worth it
i know some will be pissed , but again I'm not talking about the nice exceptions to the rule i'm talking about the rule
as a small subset of the general population they have an extremely strong concentration of the following factors
no car ....of the no car group , many have no car due to the multiple previous driving drunk convictions
of the group that does have a car .... if it's crappy it is there's or there boyfriends.... if it's nice it is the parents or the sugardaddy's
if it's crappy (see above) it has no insurance ......
children out of wedlock ...... by race ..... black strippers with kids ......100% no husband , hispanic ...about 50% no husband is a good guess , white i'll guess 33% ... those are very good educated guesses .... i mention that because it is a very poor indicator for any number of things
of the kids out of wedlock group there will be an unusually high percentage who have had the children taken away by a child welfare agency
these ladies the percentage with drug problems are at or near 100% ......also very transient , many times not in the same residence more than a few months
the "middle class" group ...... there isn't any .... by this i mean just normal mundane things .......checking account , internet , long term residence ,cell phone (it belongs to the sugardaddy) ,credit card, car , library card ,car insurance , registration, AAA sticker on the bumper , club memberships , id cards , shoppers club cards , savings account , savings , kids in little league , a second or third job , night school , that kinda thing .... there isn't any of that
the " i spent my last cent on shoes , a fix or a tattoo " group ..... that group holds nearly 100% of them
they are nice to look at but that's it , that's the extent of the good stuff ......between the sheets they are no better or worse than the much more desirable general female population
gentlemen, don't short change the wife or girlfriend for a stripper , the stripper ain't worth it
i know some will be pissed , but again I'm not talking about the nice exceptions to the rule i'm talking about the rule
geposted Tue 24 Mar 09 @ 8:22 am
djderricke
I would have to say, being in the strip club industry for six years, I agree with almost everything Chuck said. I've seen a few exceptions, but they are just that....exceptions.
geposted Tue 24 Mar 09 @ 10:59 am
DJ Marcel_1
I'm also a strip club dj and Chuckers is completely correct.
Very very few exceptions to what he is sayin.
Dancers are nice to look at - But that's it.
Very very few exceptions to what he is sayin.
Dancers are nice to look at - But that's it.
geposted Tue 24 Mar 09 @ 12:11 pm
thanks gents
geposted Tue 24 Mar 09 @ 6:43 pm
djrenee
So, this post has gone full circle three times lets update and hopefully say LAST CALL.
May I conclude the following: (Let me know if I got it right)
(1) Depending on your particular venue there's a high probability that the majority of strippers are "Ho Bags", but not all.
(2) In some clubs the "Ho Bag" to "decent human" being ratio may be HIGHER or LOWER, your results and mileage may vary.
(3) The MAJORITY of DJ's who work in strip bars think the MAJORITY of their fellow co-workers are nasty individuals. (This must save the boss a ton of money on the employee Christmas parties) "Ho Ho Ho"
(4) And finally DJ "Electro" has proclaimed that anyone who uses a mouse with VDJ is somehow inferior?. WTF?
I have this urge to use a response made famous by Dan Aykroyd but I can't say it.
Take it away Dan. ---> http://home.comcast.net/~thirdrock/jane.wav
May I conclude the following: (Let me know if I got it right)
(1) Depending on your particular venue there's a high probability that the majority of strippers are "Ho Bags", but not all.
(2) In some clubs the "Ho Bag" to "decent human" being ratio may be HIGHER or LOWER, your results and mileage may vary.
(3) The MAJORITY of DJ's who work in strip bars think the MAJORITY of their fellow co-workers are nasty individuals. (This must save the boss a ton of money on the employee Christmas parties) "Ho Ho Ho"
(4) And finally DJ "Electro" has proclaimed that anyone who uses a mouse with VDJ is somehow inferior?. WTF?
I have this urge to use a response made famous by Dan Aykroyd but I can't say it.
Take it away Dan. ---> http://home.comcast.net/~thirdrock/jane.wav
geposted Wed 25 Mar 09 @ 12:09 am
dj-e-lectric
tayla wrote :
hey there is nothing wrong in just using a mouse to control vdj, i can work quicker in the browser using the mouse than i can with any damn controller,
some people may be in a situation where they cannot or want to move to a controller so putting them down is totally out of order. you work with what your comfortable with is the way i see it.
some people may be in a situation where they cannot or want to move to a controller so putting them down is totally out of order. you work with what your comfortable with is the way i see it.
I am not saying I am putting down Djs who use a mouse (as stated many times in the "real Dj" debates I use only a mouse)...but the stereotype out there among the self proclaimed "real" and "old School" djs are not only that software Djs (unless you use serato) are not good Djs but especially if you use only a mouse.....you see by only using the mouse I am pictured by other "Real Djs" as not being a real Dj until they hear me spin, then they realize I am the EXCEPTION to the mouse rule....see it's the whole quack like a duck thing, follow along class.
geposted Wed 25 Mar 09 @ 5:04 am
dj-e-lectric
By the way Chuckster is right on on about 120% of what he is saying about MOST strip clubs (quack quack Renee, we aren't talking about the one in 100 exception in your neigborhood). My information is not from Djing at strip clubs (I have only done a few weeks fill in at a couple of strip clubs) or being a customer (the whole environment repulses me and I don't think 70% of the dancers are attractive....certainly not in the light, why do you think those places are always so dark). My info comes from a very good friend of mine who was the former owner of strip clubs in 4 states for over 20 years (getting EXTREMELY wealthy off those po ho's I might ad). He absolutely kept the drugs out of his places (and thus had a REALLY hard time keeping dancers), but the rest is dead on Chuckie.
geposted Wed 25 Mar 09 @ 5:20 am
djrenee
I was SO glad to see post sink to the bowels of forum, it should be nominated for the Blovating post for 2008-2009
But I ran across this today, this report maybe current but the "theme" is something I see all the time. (This could be because my information is based on DIRECT CONVERSATION and not "stereotypes" or "club gossip"...
Here "DJ" Electric.... plug into this report, you may get a big enough charge to inflate your girlfriend. :-)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/living/2009/03/26/dnt.az.topless.jobs.rise.kpho
But I ran across this today, this report maybe current but the "theme" is something I see all the time. (This could be because my information is based on DIRECT CONVERSATION and not "stereotypes" or "club gossip"...
Here "DJ" Electric.... plug into this report, you may get a big enough charge to inflate your girlfriend. :-)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/living/2009/03/26/dnt.az.topless.jobs.rise.kpho
geposted Thu 26 Mar 09 @ 5:10 pm
dj-e-lectric
djrenee wrote :
I was SO glad to see post sink to the bowels of forum, it should be nominated for the Blovating post for 2008-2009
But I ran across this today, this report maybe current but the "theme" is something I see all the time. (This could be because my information is based on DIRECT CONVERSATION and not "stereotypes" or "club gossip"...
Here "DJ" Electric.... plug into this report, you may get a big enough charge to inflate your girlfriend. :-)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/living/2009/03/26/dnt.az.topless.jobs.rise.kpho
But I ran across this today, this report maybe current but the "theme" is something I see all the time. (This could be because my information is based on DIRECT CONVERSATION and not "stereotypes" or "club gossip"...
Here "DJ" Electric.... plug into this report, you may get a big enough charge to inflate your girlfriend. :-)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/living/2009/03/26/dnt.az.topless.jobs.rise.kpho
Again, a specific exception. For every 1 soccer mom turned stripper there are 100 crack babies borne of strippers. You seem to be defending these "working women" a bit too much...please asure us you were never a stripper!
Just as a heads up I don't have to inflate my girlfriend anymore...I had her pumped full of silicone so she would be like all the bar babes in Scottsdale without the high maintenance and I don't have to buy mine no bling bling to get the zing zing!
geposted Fri 27 Mar 09 @ 5:40 am
dj-e-lectric
dj-e-lectric wrote :
I actually know someone who used to take their kid to her daycare before she went down (I mean under). You would be suprised how many women do work the 1 high class club in each state, but again they are the EXCEPTION. For every 1 soccer mom turned stripper there are 100 crack babies borne of "typical" strippers. You seem to be defending these "working women" a bit too much...please asure us you were never a stripper!
Just as a heads up I don't have to inflate my girlfriend anymore...I had her pumped full of silicone so she would be like all the bar babes in Scottsdale without the high maintenance and I don't have to buy mine no bling bling to get the zing zing!
djrenee wrote :
I was SO glad to see post sink to the bowels of forum, it should be nominated for the Blovating post for 2008-2009
But I ran across this today, this report maybe current but the "theme" is something I see all the time. (This could be because my information is based on DIRECT CONVERSATION and not "stereotypes" or "club gossip"...
Here "DJ" Electric.... plug into this report, you may get a big enough charge to inflate your girlfriend. :-)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/living/2009/03/26/dnt.az.topless.jobs.rise.kpho
But I ran across this today, this report maybe current but the "theme" is something I see all the time. (This could be because my information is based on DIRECT CONVERSATION and not "stereotypes" or "club gossip"...
Here "DJ" Electric.... plug into this report, you may get a big enough charge to inflate your girlfriend. :-)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/living/2009/03/26/dnt.az.topless.jobs.rise.kpho
I actually know someone who used to take their kid to her daycare before she went down (I mean under). You would be suprised how many women do work the 1 high class club in each state, but again they are the EXCEPTION. For every 1 soccer mom turned stripper there are 100 crack babies borne of "typical" strippers. You seem to be defending these "working women" a bit too much...please asure us you were never a stripper!
Just as a heads up I don't have to inflate my girlfriend anymore...I had her pumped full of silicone so she would be like all the bar babes in Scottsdale without the high maintenance and I don't have to buy mine no bling bling to get the zing zing!
geposted Fri 27 Mar 09 @ 5:45 am
djrenee
Quote :
You seem to be defending these "working women" a bit too much...please asure us you were never a stripper!
Me? Of course not, my Mother was though.
geposted Fri 27 Mar 09 @ 6:31 am
