DICEPD
Hi guys, coming from Traktor I am looking at becoming more familiar with VDJ.
I'd like to use my midifighter w/ VDJ along side my VMS4.
I am currently mapping it out but have some questions on the mapping. I have most of the basic mapping figured out but I want to be able to change the effects settings while I active them.
I am using the midifighter in 4 banks mode so I can control each deck individually depending on the back.
So for example to use the flanger I have:
2-37 deck 1 effect "Flanger" active
But not sure how to active the sliders, what would be ideal would be to use two other buttons, while the effect is active, to adjust sliders. Obviously knobs would be ideal here but I only have the smaller midifighter (didn't expect to turn away from traktor).
Another question is there a work around to have the effect on only when the button is being held down instead of on/off.
And last but not least, while the effect is active is there away to have the LED on?
I've just found so many pluses to VDJ compared to traktor, I am scratching my head why I haven't used it more. Once I get the effects portion down I think it will be my next software purchase.
I'd like to use my midifighter w/ VDJ along side my VMS4.
I am currently mapping it out but have some questions on the mapping. I have most of the basic mapping figured out but I want to be able to change the effects settings while I active them.
I am using the midifighter in 4 banks mode so I can control each deck individually depending on the back.
So for example to use the flanger I have:
2-37 deck 1 effect "Flanger" active
But not sure how to active the sliders, what would be ideal would be to use two other buttons, while the effect is active, to adjust sliders. Obviously knobs would be ideal here but I only have the smaller midifighter (didn't expect to turn away from traktor).
Another question is there a work around to have the effect on only when the button is being held down instead of on/off.
And last but not least, while the effect is active is there away to have the LED on?
I've just found so many pluses to VDJ compared to traktor, I am scratching my head why I haven't used it more. Once I get the effects portion down I think it will be my next software purchase.
geposted Sun 29 Jan 12 @ 5:40 pm
synthet1c
can you please help me with some information about the midi fighter? It will take about 30seconds to find... I have asked 4 people and no one has yet provided it, you will need it if you want to map the leds in vdj..
to get it go into control panel --> devices --> right click the midi fighter --> properties --> hardware tab --> properties --> details tab --> in the drop down menu select "hardware id's"
as an example my controller says this,
USB\VID_1D03&PID_002F&REV_0100&MI_00
USB\VID_1D03&PID_002F&REV_010
I just need one of the lines
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/143680/General_Discussion/MidiFighter_mapping_and_VDJ_script_question.html
In regard to your questions you can do it all with script, to start you can change the effect parameters in two different ways, you can make it change incrementaly while you are holding a button, of staticly to a specific value.
for incrementlly you can use something like this...
"effect 'flanger' active while_pressed & effect 'flanger' slider 1 0% & repeat 20ms & effect 'flanger' slider 1 +0.01
what this wil do is
The other option is to have the slidier jump between two values, for this you need to employ a conditional variable
down ? action if button is pressed : action if button is released
so using that if you want to set the 1st echo slider to 50% when pressed in then back to zero on release you would use
down ? effect 'echo' slider 1 50% : effect 'echo' slider 1 0%
you could also make it turn on the effect while you press the button and off if you release
down ? effect 'echo' active on & effect 'echo' slider 1 50% : effect 'echo' active off & effect 'echo' slider 1 0%
these are great resources in the wiki
http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/VDJscript.html
http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/VDJscript_verbs.html
http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/VDJScript%20Examples.html
to get it go into control panel --> devices --> right click the midi fighter --> properties --> hardware tab --> properties --> details tab --> in the drop down menu select "hardware id's"
as an example my controller says this,
USB\VID_1D03&PID_002F&REV_0100&MI_00
USB\VID_1D03&PID_002F&REV_010
I just need one of the lines
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/143680/General_Discussion/MidiFighter_mapping_and_VDJ_script_question.html
In regard to your questions you can do it all with script, to start you can change the effect parameters in two different ways, you can make it change incrementaly while you are holding a button, of staticly to a specific value.
for incrementlly you can use something like this...
"effect 'flanger' active while_pressed & effect 'flanger' slider 1 0% & repeat 20ms & effect 'flanger' slider 1 +0.01
what this wil do is
- activate the effect while the button is pressed
- reset the slider to zero when first pressed
- increase the effect slider by 1% every 20 milliseconds
The other option is to have the slidier jump between two values, for this you need to employ a conditional variable
down ? action if button is pressed : action if button is released
so using that if you want to set the 1st echo slider to 50% when pressed in then back to zero on release you would use
down ? effect 'echo' slider 1 50% : effect 'echo' slider 1 0%
you could also make it turn on the effect while you press the button and off if you release
down ? effect 'echo' active on & effect 'echo' slider 1 50% : effect 'echo' active off & effect 'echo' slider 1 0%
these are great resources in the wiki
http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/VDJscript.html
http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/VDJscript_verbs.html
http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/VDJScript%20Examples.html
geposted Sun 29 Jan 12 @ 6:14 pm
DICEPD
geposted Sun 29 Jan 12 @ 7:00 pm
DICEPD
Thats where I am getting stuck, It seems that the midifighter is only 'on/off' in VDJ where it doesn't matter if I am holding it down or not.
Next problem is there is no gate effect or VDJ equal, one of my favorites was the mash and gator effect together in traktor, but how the midifighter works in vdj I'm not sure thats possible.
I've read through a lot of your threads on here about the problem. I was honestly you already had a replica of the traktor instant grad. map when I started using VDJ lol. Some consider it a step down from traktor/serato but once I get the midifighter how I want it, I see no other reason not to use vdj... thats obviously if the midifighter can get to that point :-/
EDIT:
Well hold it right there, I just copied and pasted that line and it DOES work for holding the button. You sir just made my day! AWESOME!
Next problem is there is no gate effect or VDJ equal, one of my favorites was the mash and gator effect together in traktor, but how the midifighter works in vdj I'm not sure thats possible.
I've read through a lot of your threads on here about the problem. I was honestly you already had a replica of the traktor instant grad. map when I started using VDJ lol. Some consider it a step down from traktor/serato but once I get the midifighter how I want it, I see no other reason not to use vdj... thats obviously if the midifighter can get to that point :-/
EDIT:
Well hold it right there, I just copied and pasted that line and it DOES work for holding the button. You sir just made my day! AWESOME!
geposted Sun 29 Jan 12 @ 7:04 pm
synthet1c
the only effects you cant chain with other effects are mashers and rolls, duen duen has thought of this though, by adding a gate to hisbeatmasher single plugin, so you will be able to achieve that problem is you need to have a registered version to be able to download the effect, but his beatslicer "like twitch" the efx1000 delay "feedback loop" and plethora of pioneer effects alone makes the purchase worthwile, if you have the vdj le version that came with the vms 4 you can get a discount on pro, i think its $150...
check your pm...
***also can you disable 4 banks mode? I can make it do more than the djtt mapping if you can***
check your pm...
***also can you disable 4 banks mode? I can make it do more than the djtt mapping if you can***
geposted Sun 29 Jan 12 @ 8:10 pm
DICEPD
Yeah I have LE with a Mixtrack I purchased, but never seemed to figure out where the actual serial number they wanted for it.
See, around here (with the exception of Video DJs) no one uses VDJ. One of the biggest things was lack of effects that had the "VDJ" sound (such as the samples built in). I have no problem purchasing it, but I'd love to hear a demo of the beatmasher your talking about. What I have heard on the net of other effects hasn't really caught my attention yet, but google and youtube didnt have anything on the beatmasher you are talking bout.
Another effect that I'd like to have is an echo effect to go over my scratching, nothing I have used so far works unless the track is playing, huge bummer.
I don't see where to check PMs...
With what you provided me earlier, is it possible to active any of the effects, but have that button act as an activation piece for the parameters with in it? Such as having the 2nd to bottom row, be 4 effects, then once you activate that effect, the bottom row can be pressed and held to change the effect?
Another thing I forgot to mention is the ability to "hold" the effects, such as Ean has it in the instant gratification. (I am mapping mine in 4 banks mode. )
See, around here (with the exception of Video DJs) no one uses VDJ. One of the biggest things was lack of effects that had the "VDJ" sound (such as the samples built in). I have no problem purchasing it, but I'd love to hear a demo of the beatmasher your talking about. What I have heard on the net of other effects hasn't really caught my attention yet, but google and youtube didnt have anything on the beatmasher you are talking bout.
Another effect that I'd like to have is an echo effect to go over my scratching, nothing I have used so far works unless the track is playing, huge bummer.
I don't see where to check PMs...
With what you provided me earlier, is it possible to active any of the effects, but have that button act as an activation piece for the parameters with in it? Such as having the 2nd to bottom row, be 4 effects, then once you activate that effect, the bottom row can be pressed and held to change the effect?
Another thing I forgot to mention is the ability to "hold" the effects, such as Ean has it in the instant gratification. (I am mapping mine in 4 banks mode. )
geposted Sun 29 Jan 12 @ 8:39 pm
synthet1c
top right side of the page under your forum name...
for the effects i'm not sure how ean uses them on his mapping, but if you want a temporary effect button, then if you are holding a seperate shift button on release the effect doesn't turn off, that is certainly possible, although there is a bug in the "repeat" verb which will make it glitch and automate constantly, so you are limited to only two positions of the effect slider. for the effect to stay on use
map this to a shift button
set 'shift' while_pressed
effect button
down ? effect 'echo' active on & effect 'echo' slider 1 50% : var 'shift' ? nothing : effect 'echo' active off & effect 'echo' slider 1 0%
for the effects i'm not sure how ean uses them on his mapping, but if you want a temporary effect button, then if you are holding a seperate shift button on release the effect doesn't turn off, that is certainly possible, although there is a bug in the "repeat" verb which will make it glitch and automate constantly, so you are limited to only two positions of the effect slider. for the effect to stay on use
map this to a shift button
set 'shift' while_pressed
effect button
down ? effect 'echo' active on & effect 'echo' slider 1 50% : var 'shift' ? nothing : effect 'echo' active off & effect 'echo' slider 1 0%
geposted Sun 29 Jan 12 @ 8:52 pm
DICEPD
This is how I have it setup currently, still not close to having it done.
If you can make it show up that'd be great lol. BTW i dont have any PMs on here, if you want to email me, my email is **** at *****
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/midifightercontrol.png/
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If you can make it show up that'd be great lol. BTW i dont have any PMs on here, if you want to email me, my email is **** at *****
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/midifightercontrol.png/
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geposted Sun 29 Jan 12 @ 10:59 pm
synthet1c
sent
geposted Sun 29 Jan 12 @ 11:23 pm
Support staff
DICEPD wrote :
Yeah I have LE with a Mixtrack I purchased, but never seemed to figure out where the actual serial number they wanted for it.
It's on the sleeve of the installation CD.
If you have lost if, contact the manufacturer Numark support http://www.numark.com and they should be able to retrieve it for you.
VirtuaalDJ LE entitles you to a discount off upgrading to the full VirtualDJ Pro (50% if you have MixTrack Pro): http://www.virtualdj.com/buy/index.html
geposted Mon 30 Jan 12 @ 9:41 am
DICEPD
I was looking on the actual mixtrack itself. I think my VMS4 may of came with LE as well, can I combine those for a double discount? haha
I'm not entirely sure if I want to put more money into software yet. I wish some people would put some 'advanced' demos of the effects that are not already built in. Because honestly, I dont think (until I did it last night on the midifighter) I had ever heard more than one effect going on.
Mixing on VDJ is much better, while I don't need waveforms to mix with, the phase meters on traktor are awful and it never picked up BPMs nearly as close as VDJ seems to be, and vdj actually has picked up, correctly, BPMs of some of my acapellas. Oh and it loads songs about 4x as fast and the search seems to go through sub-folders, it was awful trying to find a song when I didn't know where it was in traktor.
I'm not entirely sure if I want to put more money into software yet. I wish some people would put some 'advanced' demos of the effects that are not already built in. Because honestly, I dont think (until I did it last night on the midifighter) I had ever heard more than one effect going on.
Mixing on VDJ is much better, while I don't need waveforms to mix with, the phase meters on traktor are awful and it never picked up BPMs nearly as close as VDJ seems to be, and vdj actually has picked up, correctly, BPMs of some of my acapellas. Oh and it loads songs about 4x as fast and the search seems to go through sub-folders, it was awful trying to find a song when I didn't know where it was in traktor.
geposted Mon 30 Jan 12 @ 11:40 am
Support staff
Only one discount can be applied at a time.
You may find that one gives more discount that the other, so please try them both.
You may find that one gives more discount that the other, so please try them both.
geposted Mon 30 Jan 12 @ 1:10 pm