ianmelville
Pioneer today announced the latest mixer in its range, the DJM-850, a replacement for its DJM-800 model. The mixer builds on the DJM-800′s features, adding the ability to integrate the mixer further with DJ software, and more sophisticated effects that borrow from the DJM-900nexus.
With a built in four-stereo channel high-quality sound card, the mixer further blurs the line between hardware and software DJing, and sheds a little more light on the ultimate direction digital DJing might take over the coming years. Below we look closer at what’s on board, bring you the launch video, and link to more photos as well as the official press release.
http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2012/02/pioneers-new-djm-850-digital-dj-friendly-mixer/
With a built in four-stereo channel high-quality sound card, the mixer further blurs the line between hardware and software DJing, and sheds a little more light on the ultimate direction digital DJing might take over the coming years. Below we look closer at what’s on board, bring you the launch video, and link to more photos as well as the official press release.
http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2012/02/pioneers-new-djm-850-digital-dj-friendly-mixer/
geposted Thu 23 Feb 12 @ 6:13 am
Charlie Wilson
Looks like it's everything the 800 should of been.
They really milked it!
They really milked it!
geposted Thu 23 Feb 12 @ 8:42 am
s.waterreus
nice, this will be a prettymuch useless upgrade from the 800.
pioneer really has some marketing guru's at work.
somehow they say it has more features then the 800 but it is not a club mixer anymore, it is for home and mobile use.
probably because they are affraid they'l sell the 900 less.
anyway, a nice mixer if you are thinking of buying a djm 800, but if you already have a 800, i really don't see the point of this mixer.
just my opinion, don't be mad.
pioneer really has some marketing guru's at work.
somehow they say it has more features then the 800 but it is not a club mixer anymore, it is for home and mobile use.
probably because they are affraid they'l sell the 900 less.
anyway, a nice mixer if you are thinking of buying a djm 800, but if you already have a 800, i really don't see the point of this mixer.
just my opinion, don't be mad.
geposted Thu 23 Feb 12 @ 1:51 pm
andytaylor125
I think they really messed something up here, calling a £1200 mixer for home and mobile dj use!!!
I don't get why this got released. Surely the 900 is a straight replacement for the 800????
They're not that different in price and they've got pretty much the same features (no router built in- but they're cheap enough to buy anyway!) and no digital ins- who cares either way if you're using the usb sound card!) so unless they're going to dramatically drop the price once it's out, there's no point!
Thinking about it, maybe that is the point, if they drop the price like they did on the dj controllers, then maybe it'll be a worthwhile addition...
I don't get why this got released. Surely the 900 is a straight replacement for the 800????
They're not that different in price and they've got pretty much the same features (no router built in- but they're cheap enough to buy anyway!) and no digital ins- who cares either way if you're using the usb sound card!) so unless they're going to dramatically drop the price once it's out, there's no point!
Thinking about it, maybe that is the point, if they drop the price like they did on the dj controllers, then maybe it'll be a worthwhile addition...
geposted Thu 23 Feb 12 @ 5:20 pm
cstoll
Here is my only problem with this revised version --
This is where they put the USB port for the Soundcard ???
>> USB x 1 (top side B port)
Then you need something like this ...
Which is a Right Angled USB cable (can't use a left because it would block the Mic's XLR) which could interfer with the Input switch for channel 1.
And ...
>> MIDI OUT x 1 (5P DIN)
So, MIDI is still going to require an adapter MIDI-to-USB ????
These are just engineering perspective critics - I am sure the same DJM-800 quality is still there.
Just not sure enough consideration was given to making it really 'Digital DJ' friendly.
This is where they put the USB port for the Soundcard ???
>> USB x 1 (top side B port)
Then you need something like this ...
Which is a Right Angled USB cable (can't use a left because it would block the Mic's XLR) which could interfer with the Input switch for channel 1.
And ...
>> MIDI OUT x 1 (5P DIN)
So, MIDI is still going to require an adapter MIDI-to-USB ????
These are just engineering perspective critics - I am sure the same DJM-800 quality is still there.
Just not sure enough consideration was given to making it really 'Digital DJ' friendly.
geposted Thu 23 Feb 12 @ 7:08 pm
WasabiTech
@s.waterrus
Totally agree with you. I´ve got a 800 at home now,and could not be more happier. If & when I decide to upgrade,I´ll either go for the 900 or the svm model:)
Totally agree with you. I´ve got a 800 at home now,and could not be more happier. If & when I decide to upgrade,I´ll either go for the 900 or the svm model:)
geposted Fri 24 Feb 12 @ 4:49 am
groovindj
cstoll wrote :
So, MIDI is still going to require an adapter MIDI-to-USB ????
No, because they've put a USB socket on there (as you pointed out). The DIN socket has apparently been left for backwards compatibility (owners of previous models who may have purchased adapters).
geposted Fri 24 Feb 12 @ 5:55 am
s.waterreus
the only reason for digital inputs beeing handy is for multiple use of effects.
you can hook up a cdj with rca and coax at the same time,
for example:
cdj with rca to channel 1 and dhte same cdj with coax to channel 2
you can now use effects on 1 and 2 at the same time so you can do crush and LPF at the same time
this can not be done with the 850 because it is lacking digital ports, so i think that could be a great miss.
and indeed the placement of the usb port is just wrong
you can hook up a cdj with rca and coax at the same time,
for example:
cdj with rca to channel 1 and dhte same cdj with coax to channel 2
you can now use effects on 1 and 2 at the same time so you can do crush and LPF at the same time
this can not be done with the 850 because it is lacking digital ports, so i think that could be a great miss.
and indeed the placement of the usb port is just wrong
geposted Fri 24 Feb 12 @ 6:08 am
cstoll
groovindj wrote :
No, because they've put a USB socket on there (as you pointed out). The DIN socket has apparently been left for backwards compatibility (owners of previous models who may have purchased adapters).
cstoll wrote :
So, MIDI is still going to require an adapter MIDI-to-USB ????
No, because they've put a USB socket on there (as you pointed out). The DIN socket has apparently been left for backwards compatibility (owners of previous models who may have purchased adapters).
Well there are conflicting spec information out there and I will find out which is right.
The Primary Pioneer site (PioneerDJ.com) lists one thing, where the Pioneer Electronics USA (www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/) lists it differently.
Even then ... why the USB port in such a bad spot?? And, why not just replace the 5Pin DIN with the USB port to have a more convenient location ???
geposted Fri 24 Feb 12 @ 12:04 pm
Charlie Wilson
So they have 1 USB input, now they just need 2 more USB inputs for CDJ's/midi then you wouldn't need to run 2 usb's to your computer from your decks.
geposted Fri 24 Feb 12 @ 5:16 pm
groovindj
I agree, some of the choices that manufacturers make on products can seem downright
crazy - you'd think that it had been designed by the office tea boy instead of someone
who knows what's needed by potential end users!
But no - if you ask them, they say that they have a whole team of working DJs who they
consult with on these things.
Eh? Who are these DJs? A bunch of "yes men" who just agree to everything for fear of being kicked off the squad? :-)
crazy - you'd think that it had been designed by the office tea boy instead of someone
who knows what's needed by potential end users!
But no - if you ask them, they say that they have a whole team of working DJs who they
consult with on these things.
Eh? Who are these DJs? A bunch of "yes men" who just agree to everything for fear of being kicked off the squad? :-)
geposted Sat 25 Feb 12 @ 5:26 am
Charlie Wilson
Yes very true, funny how they never disclose who works for them and funny how they never do polls or anything. I'm sure they read these forums though.
geposted Sat 25 Feb 12 @ 9:48 am