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Topic: Virtual DJ name drop TURN OFF! - Page: 3
If you like a product (VDJ) you'll pay the cost for it. The 'Home' license was ever always thus: for home use only. I don't think it was ever meant to have all the features of Pro or Infinity. There are free options out there for those at the home level. I really don't see the frustration. Its not like Virtual DJ is hiding anything, its all in the 'fine-print'.
 
Youtube Free has ads, a lot more intrusive than VDJ and the outcome is the same. Pay to remove the ads or put up with it.
 
youtube have adds but if pay subscription adds off,
in virtual dj pay 4€ Month and audio adds ON.
 
YouTube £12.99 per month minimum. Cheaper options still include ads.

VDJ Pro £17 per month. Cheaper option includes audio branding.
 
But on YouTube you have content to watch;
VirtualDJ is a player for listening to your music files.

apart youtube you use all days,
Most amateur DJs also use the program once a month at a small party.
19€ for use 1 day......? I don't see it as feasible

Nobody is going to buy the current €4 VirtualDJ Home with audio advertising.

What could they do that would be fairer:
1 month €19 PRO
1 week €4 PRO
 
From what I gather, since I don't plan to use this software for DJing instead of a media player with extended capabilities, I am not wanted unless I pay for it, which I still will not do because I am not the intended user of the paid tiers. Now I understand "not wanted" may not be the best choice of words, but I still want not to have my music interrupted even under the new update that lowers the volume and decreases the chance of it playing by a lot, and after 13 years of having VDJ work as is, I'm expected to pay for it to be like it used to when again, I am not the target group of it.

Imagine if VLC played its name every so often. I can't draw a parallel to spotify because that is a music service that streams music, and I am using a program that plays my locally saved music. However, a player I use on mobile for this purpose, Up Tempo, is indeed paid for more than just the basic effects, but it was a 4 euro one time purchase. If there was something similar for VDJ, I'd do it.

For now, I just downgraded to the 2025 version, and will keep using it until it stops working, and after that I'll look for an alternative. After all, the effects I use are all there and I don't need new ones. Cheers!
 
The EULA clearly states your licence is for use of the software as provided. Terms and conditions can change (like pizza delivery changing their prices literally every day) and if the new terms don't suit your use case then it's up to you to find something that does.

The 2025 version will work fine for a long time and if it works for you then great.
 
sotirisdim4 wrote :
For now, I just downgraded to the 2025 version, and will keep using it until it stops working, and after that I'll look for an alternative. After all, the effects I use are all there and I don't need new ones. Cheers!


Right so just quit crying about it and move on then. Y'all are crazy!!! Get over yourselves already......
 
If you pay €228(12x19€) a year because it's your profession, like in your case, there's no problem because you'll more than earn it. But for a hobbyist, the only option now is that or €48(12x4€) with ads... I don't know, who's going to pay €48 a year to ear music with audio ads? It's absurd.
 
Javier Gr wrote :
the only option

No, it's not the only option. If for some absurd reason you can't stand to hear the name of the software now and again, simply use one of the other free options available that (currently) have no announcement.

No one's forcing you to use VDJ.

 
You can't compare the expenses behind YouTube, which are at least $1 billion a year, with the ridiculously low expenses of VirtualDj, which I think has 17 employees.

How much does VirtualDJ spend on servers versus YouTube? (roughly 1:10000000000000)

But it's clear that everyone can charge what they want for their work. They have that right.
It's a bit of a betrayal of amateur DJs, but money talks and we can't do anything.
(We can only wait for cheap clones)
 
What is lastest build version of virtual DJ witouth audio branding?
 
Build 8909
 
It would be interesting to see if UK Law actually allows you to pay for an item that still automatically advertises itself. Normally in the UK, you pay to remove advertising. It does not matter how frequent the advertising is, it is still an intrusion. So the legal stand point is dubious. Why would you buy software if it name drops, If the software was free you would have not issue but paying for an arbitary name drop - I think could be legally challenge in UK Law and maybe elsewhere to.
Next issue VDJ has is it has now opened the door for people to move to other software. I don't have a posh controller but it came with Serato Pro (yes PRo not Lite). and its own proprietary software. So even though I seriously prefer Virtual DJ - If I wanted to play at a public event - too old for that nowadays, lol - There is nothing to stop me using Serato or the Controller own software. Last I heard serato lite had reduced functionality but no nsme drop - What happened to VDJ - LE??
Also sadly lacking is any upgrade discount. Where is the incentive to Upgrade - Non existant
I can see this move having a negative impact not a positive one in both the long and short term.
I could be wrong.!!!
 
The legal standpoint is the EULA, which you agreed to/have to agree to, when downloading the software for your use.

Whether or not paying removes ads has nothing to do with the legality of the move, what you agreed to when paying (consideration for establishing the contractual agreement) is what establishes legitimacy or not.

This argument can also be used for Amazon Prime TV - with a Prime membership, you used to get you TV with no ads during the playback of content. Now, a Prime membership has ads during playback (and unfortunately for us, their EULA, which you have to agree to to use the service, supports it).
 
Maybe it's silly to say, but I like the drop. It should be possible to turn it on, turn it off, or change it to a custom drop, just like the Virtual DJ logo in the video window, and adjust the time interval at which it is displayed. I don't know, I like to listen to Virtual DJ in the background sometimes when I use my old PC where I'm not logged in. 🙂
 
DJ VinylTouch wrote :
The legal standpoint is the EULA, which you agreed to/have to agree to, when downloading the software for your use.

Whether or not paying removes ads has nothing to do with the legality of the move, what you agreed to when paying (consideration for establishing the contractual agreement) is what establishes legitimacy or not.

This argument can also be used for Amazon Prime TV - with a Prime membership, you used to get you TV with no ads during the playback of content. Now, a Prime membership has ads during playback (and unfortunately for us, their EULA, which you have to agree to to use the service, supports it).


You cannot compare Youtube or Amazon Prime with VDJ as VDJ is a player for your music. I cannot think of anything that forces you to pay for advertising over your personal property - even image editing software removes adverts if you pay - I think re-introduction of the VDJ LE would have been a better idea. Centaily seems to work well for Serato.
 
We'll agree to disagree here.

It doesn't matter what the end product is, it matters what the contract of terms of service is you agreed to with the service provider, and VirtualDJ really isn't your personal property to do what you want with it outside of the EULA - you are agreeing to use it under the EULA.
Contract law doesn't change because of a difference in service (you can ask a lawyer for clarification on this).

As for if there is a better mid tier - that's up to Atomix staff to decide that.
 
The entitled still complaining..... I deserve free software . Get over it and if you don't like it, there's other software out there. See what they offer for free Oh wait There's only one that I'm aware of that's truly free, and I Willis t say it's bad, but not something someone I would use. Think about this , Software development cost money. Mapping every controller known to man cost money. Innovation cost money. The fact that Virtual Dj has a free version that's not time limited or feature limited is impressive .